"interesting"? (Re: Glen's designs)

6 posts ยท Jul 1 2000 to Jul 2 2000

From: GBailey@a...

Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 14:33:41 EDT

Subject: "interesting"? (Re: Glen's designs)

So, Oerjan, exactly how are my designs "interesting"? The actual systems or
the silhouette and layout? Both? I'm curious since you seem to have seen many.
Thanks for the design suggestions for the Gazelle escort. Does FB2 have
anything covering tugs or do we have to wait for FT3?

Btw, those "old wet navy BBs" are a little outdated. Steve upped their MD to 2
and they have 25% devoted to hull, a
single screen, and about 12-13% armor.  He also downgraded
some class-3s to class-2s to get the mass.
I also "improved" on the turret picture but haven't put a design with those up
yet. Steve upped the MD after having two different ones fail MD threshold
checks and send his battlewagons off to distant parts away from the battle
since he could never get it fixed. Also, because I started having more needle
beams in battles.
He also added the screens after he ran into a few beam-2
ships (mine: 12 to 20 class-2s FP+F+FS), flip ships, and
MD6 beam-1 ships.

I just added 3 Kzinti designs to my website (BC, FF, DF).

I do have blank silhouettes of my designs in.bmp files. Would people be
interested in downloading them?

Glen

From: Oerjan Ohlson <oerjan.ohlson@t...>

Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 21:38:29 +0200

Subject: Re: "interesting"? (Re: Glen's designs)

> Glen Bailey wrote:

> So, Oerjan, exactly how are my designs "interesting"?

I've seen a few, yes... What I found interesting was the actual systems;
particularly the relatively large number of large
more-than-3-arc weapons. And, of course, the extremely low thrust
rating on the "wet-navy" battleships; such engines are extremely rare
in my experience... I get a distinct impression that you don't use
missiles very much :-/

> Thanks for the design suggestions for the Gazelle escort.

We have to wait for FT3, I'm afraid. Some thoughts on this subject were
floated during the FB2 playtesting, but there was neither time enough
to develop them nor space in FB2 to print them :-(

> Btw, those "old wet navy BBs" are a little outdated. Steve

Even with these modifications they need some serious ADFC-equipped
support ships (or lots of Banzai Jammers) to save them from salvo missiles,
though... and they're exactly the sort of targets FB2 Kra'Vak
want to fight :-)

> Steve upped the MD after having two different ones fail MD

Did he fly fast enough to actually get anywhere when this happened?
Even I wouldn't fly thrust-1 ships much faster than speed 12...

> Also, because I started having more needle beams in battles.

<g> If you start using SMs in earnest, or FB2 Kra'Vak, I think he'll
also discover why thrust-4 engines are the standard in FB1 <g>

> I just added 3 Kzinti designs to my website (BC, FF, DF).

Won't have time to check these until Monday; will do so then.

Later,

From: Michael Llaneza <maserati@e...>

Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 18:58:37 -0700

Subject: Re:"interesting"? (Re: Glen's designs)

> At 2:33 PM -0400 7/1/00, GBailey@aol.com wrote:

I've always liked the Kzinti

> I do have blank silhouettes of my designs in .bmp files.

Almost certainly.

> Glen

Say, is anyone else having trouble loading the whole image? I get
about 2/3rds of the SSD and then  the connection stops. My ISP has
been a little spotty lately, so maybe it's just me.

From: Oerjan Ohlson <oerjan.ohlson@t...>

Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2000 07:37:08 +0200

Subject: Re:"interesting"? (Re: Glen's designs)

> Michael Llaneza wrote:

> Glen

I had the same problem, so it's more likely a problem with AOL.
Reloading the picture worked, though in some cases I had to reload 2-3
times before I got all of it.

Later,

From: Imre A. Szabo <ias@s...>

Date: Sun, 02 Jul 2000 07:39:26 -0400

Subject: Re: "interesting"? (Re: Glen's designs)

You are lucky. I tried over a dozen times and could never get more then the
front of the ship...

IAS

> Oerjan Ohlson wrote:

> Michael Llaneza wrote:

From: Jesse Casey <jessecasey@n...>

Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2000 12:14:51 -0500

Subject: Re: Re:"interesting"? (Re: Glen's designs)

same problem
1/3 of picture loads then quits
I even tried going direct to source (../graphics/ )
same thing happens.

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