Imre's comments

I'd much rather have a sniper rifle in a bar room brawl then a bar stool,
bottle of bear, or my bare fist, the typical weapons.

[Tomb] I think a "bottle of bear" sounds
like a very lethal close combat weapon, personally. Grrrrrawl! Big fangs and
nasty
claws.....

[Tomb] Plus, I think your comment reflects
you don't do a lot of time bar-room
brawling. I think a beer bottle (as differentiated from the bear bottle in
question) is a great weapon. Short, fast, good for one bludgeon then turns
into a knife, etc. And I'm a big fan of the barstool too, especially if I can
get about two lengths of metal or wood off of it that are
about 28" long. Then even your rifle-
clubbing individual isn't going to be happy.

That sniper rifle will make a really nice
club /
pole arm that can take a bar stool and the guy swinging it apart.

[Tomb] Most of close combat comes down
to training. But at distances (depending on the study) under 15', most long
arms end up more dangerous to the user than they are to others.

I like pole arms. But it is a little hard on the scope... Well, your axiom
about a sniper rifles in a bar room brawl is certainly a matter of
perspective... As the way beams in FT work...

[Tomb] This much is true, so arguments
about it are kind of "position statements" rather than anything that can ever
come to any conlusion.

> [Tomb] I think a "bottle of bear" sounds

Yes, but there very heavy wield... And once you break the bottle, they are as
liable to come after you as the other guy, or maybe both! Supposed to be a
bottle of beer...

> [Tomb] Plus, I think your comment reflects

Beer bottles are great, assuming they break at the neck an cut your hand to
pieces in the process... But you're way out classed if some one has a staff
(or sniper rifle used like on) and knows how to use it, unless you are very,
very, good (or lucky).

> [Tomb] Most of close combat comes down

A four foot long staff isn't that long... And is ideal for close in
encounters, even if a bit short... Just be sure the sniper rifle is unloaded,
otherwise you might shoot yourself... Agreed about training.

> [Tomb] This much is true, so arguments

Not true, if someone makes a serries of bad assumptions, you can shred them...
Such using a bottle of bear in a bar room brawl...