> Doug wrote:
> ...though I'm sure a reminder of the re-location of the list archives
[Shuffling feet nervously, holding cloth cap clasped in grubby mits,
staring at floor] but m'lud, oi already looked there, and I couldn't see it no
matter how hard oi looked. Please 'ave mercy upon me soul m'lud, oi meant no
harm. Please don't send me to Australia, not with all them...fantastic
cities...decent sports teams...lovely bikini clad
ladies...um...oi changed me mind m'lud, oi pleads guilty! :-D
Cheers,
> On Mon, 19 Jul 2004, matt tope wrote:
> Doug wrote:
<grin>...and this is, more or less, what stopped transportation as a
punishment in the UK - Oz started to be a desirable location (minus the
bikinis, this being the 19th Century we're talking about...)!
"So, I swipes a loaf o' bread, eats that, then gets sent somewhere warmer &
nicer for it? Where's the nearest bakery, sir?"
ObGZGbit: Will the advent of FTL & off-Earth colonies revive
transportation as a judicial punishment, or will colonial efforts be too
expensive to waste on criminals? Lots of SF authors seem to think it'll make a
comeback, anyway.
> --- Brian Burger <yh728@victoria.tc.ca> wrote:
> ObGZGbit: Will the advent of FTL & off-Earth
Too expensive, IMHO. Especially for places hostile enough to require
artificial life support (airless moons, for instance).
The Empire just shoots them, or if they cannot/should
not be shot, tonsures them and puts them in a monastary on an asteroid.
On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 13:18:13 -0500 Doug Evans <devans@nebraska.edu>
writes:
> ***
US and Australia started with transportees (to differing degrees) so perhaps.
> The authors can be all over the map. It can have a high 'humanitarian'
If high% fatalities then it's uneconomical. Has reprucussions. Not all nations
created from 'transporting' love the 'motherland' without (in some cases a lot
of) time passing.
> If you recall, in Dune, the Emperor's own Saudauker were the product
No FTL no significant threat in most cases.
> ESU Penal Battalions could become, instead of first wave fodder, the
And who is The_West?
Gracias,
> At 2:33 PM -0700 7/19/04, John Atkinson wrote:
Come on John, haven't you read the moon is a harsh mistress? ;-)
And after you've read that, read "The Expendables," a 4-volume series by
Richard Avery (IIRC). Another handy use for, well, expendables...
> The Empire just shoots them, or if they cannot/should
> --- Ryan Gill <rmgill@mindspring.com> wrote:
Yeah.
I just don't necessarily agree that we would be sending 'em to a whole colony
of dangerous hard cases in an environment where it would be difficult to
supress a mutiny.
That's why we shoot most of them. The ones you shut up in a monastary are
political cases, where they have highly placed relatives who would make
trouble if they were stood against a wall. Rebellious generals and such.
Of course, unlike the Federation in The Moon is a Harsh Mistress, the Empire
maintains a pretty
hard-hitting power-armored Marine Corps which spends a
good bit of time training to clear asteroids and other hostile environments in
case someone does get froggy.
Also, simply nuking an asteroid is a great deterrent (unless the infantry want
some exercise).
brendan 'neath southern skies
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> I just don't necessarily agree that we would be
You could send them to the Alarishi Empire.
> --- Laserlight <laserlight@quixnet.net> wrote:
What about my statement was unclear?
:P
JohnA said:
> > > I just don't necessarily agree that we would be
> -- Laserlight wrote:
Basileus Iohannes said:
> What about my statement was unclear?
Point. But you could dismiss it by saying "That's not a mutiny, that's their
normal mode of operation."