> Current total population, as of the census of January 2188,
The
> remainder call Adelie home.
I think there was something about "the largest off-Earth population =
180 million" being in the published Word.
> Did the OU invent Modular construction, or did the IAS BTW? Or was it
Alarish publicized Modular Defense Plug-ins for freighters. While it
was an original concept (i.e. I came up with it on my own), I rather suspect
ii wasn't the first time that original concept has come up.
> Beth Fulton wrote:
> Current total population, as of the census of January 2188, is
300 million on Adelie? I'm sure there was something about a 100 mill limit...
The rest are exactly in conformance with my own ideas, excapet possibly the
Earth population, which I assumed would be more like 10 mill (underwater
farming).
Apart from that, an example worthy of emulation.
Did the OU invent Modular construction, or did the IAS BTW? Or was it
yet another of those OU-(fill in the nation) Joint R&D projects that
each nation took up in a different way after the initial trials?
Currently I'm looking at designs which have one standard-sized 8-Mass
module. Even the Cruisers. And trying to keep them within the Eureka OU
miniatures range.
Freemantle "Patrol Vessels" -> River Class Destroyers
??? Light Cruisers -> essentially an a Freemantle with Thrust 6 vice 4
Heavy Cruisers -> Warship with 8 Mass intercheangeable
CVL -> Small CV with either a self-defence or Space Assault (ie Marines)
module.
I'm also trying to include the published OU designs, including the highly
experimental Special Forces ship. This can easily be put in as
"It is rumoured that the OU has developed, or is developing, a so-called
"Cloaked" ship. The exact status is uncertain, and the development program, if
it exists, may be a failure. Rumours persist though of Black projects underway
in remote systems, and partial sightings of unidentified vessels in OU space.
It's even possible that this may be a joint program with another nation, with
development well hidden in the
myriad rocks surrounding an OU M-type star."
G'day guys,
> 300 million on Adelie? I'm sure there was something about a 100 mill
I didn't realise that such a limit existed, sorry. By the way, where was the
word published (I'm not on the GZG-pedia list - then again you're more
than likely to say it says on Pgx of... to which oh go "ohhh" <blush>
Either way I'd be very interested in the rationale behind such a limit -
don't
mean to be a heretic or re-open an old argument or anything, it just
seems a little, well odd. However, that oddness may disappear if I knew the
reasoning behind it.
> Did the OU invent Modular construction, or did the IAS BTW? Or was it
Case of convergent engineering I guess. I honestly hadn't looked at anything
along the lines when the fleet thoughts came together - more a case of
getting the most out of limited resources I guess.
Cheers
Beth
G'day Alan,
> Apart from that, an example worthy of emulation.
Hadn't really thought about that, but nice idea.
Have fun,
Beth
> I think there was something about "the largest off-Earth population =
dunno. John Atkinson posted it, IIRC. A quick once over of DS2 and FT
timelines fails to spot it, which likely means it's in SG. Or I just didn't
see it.
> Alan E & Carmel J Brain wrote:
> Did the OU invent Modular construction, or did the IAS BTW? Or was it
The first 'modular' ship class I know of was the Virgin Mary class
Superdreadnought of the NRE. Alarish came out with some modular Q-ship
sections a while ago as well.
> John M. Atkinson wrote:
> The first 'modular' ship class I know of was the Virgin Mary class
Sounds as if "It Steam Engines come Steam Engine Time."
Beth spake thusly upon matters weighty:
> I didn't realise that such a limit existed, sorry. By the way, where
The rationale was printed cannon - mentioning Albion (size of England
population) as most populous off-Earth colony. Blame Jon T :}
/************************************************
Yep, it's in the 2135 entry in FT and DS2. No specific numbers though.
"2135 The Anglian Confederation moves its Parliament to Albion, which now has
population almost as large as England thanks to massive immigration and
engineered population growth programmes. The reigning monarch, Charles
V,
divides his time between palaces in England, Vermont, Ottawa and Albion." from
GZG's Full Thrust by Jon Tuffley
> -----Original Message-----
I thought the =Kra'Vak= invented modular construction...
<ducks>
-=Kr'rt
> ----------
On Fri, 5 Mar 1999 10:30:28 -0500 "Wasserman, Kurt"
> <Kurt.Wasserman@CAI.COM> writes:
> On Thu, 4 Mar 1999, John M. Atkinson wrote:
> Laserlight wrote:
umm... it's about 60 million; i assume that '1' was a typo. unless the whole
spice babies effect has been quite a bit more significant than i
thought :-).
Tom
Thomas spake thusly upon matters weighty:
As an aside, do we assume the England of today or the England of the date the
quote is made... hence suggesting a higher pop for Albion.
> On Thu, 4 Mar 1999, John M. Atkinson wrote:
/************************************************
> On Fri, 5 Mar 1999, Thomas Barclay wrote:
> Thomas spake thusly upon matters weighty:
as john stated in a part of the post i snipped, there probably won't be
enormous population growth in the UK in the next 200 years. hmm. is that
right? let me check...
well, an annual growth rate of 0.25% over 200 years yields a 65% increases in
population. somehow, i doubt the UK population will continue to climb like
that, but i could be wrong.
(looking this up, i find the UN expects world population to reach 6 billion on
12 october this year; that's a little too precise, surely
...)
the UN predicts population growth in the industrialised nations will fall to
zero by 2025. if the growth rate falls linearly until then, then... then it's
a bloody integral, hang on... no, i just get silly answers. it's basically not
much, though. something like a final population of 1.03 times the current
population. i think.
the quote onion, just for completeness:
> > On Thu, 4 Mar 1999, John M. Atkinson wrote:
Tom
> Thomas Barclay wrote:
...snip... JTL
> The rationale was printed cannon - mentioning Albion (size of England
What the quote does not say is the year that the population
applies. Is it the 1999 population, (assumed by most people),
or the projected population of ENGLAND in 2135, (my personal money would be on
ENGLAND in 2135, not on the U.K. in 1999.)
Bye for now
G'day guys,
First up thanks for all the response. Now on to my
cut of things (using back of the envelope calcs - i.e.
noting special).
UK has population of 57million (1995) and at current growth rate of 0.1%
that'll hit a whopping 65 million by 2135. That means
in 36 years (2099-2135) Albion has to match that. Even with
fairly hefty immigration you're still looking at a growth rate of about
6-7% to manage it. Now if that growth rate continues beyond 2135
up to 2188 (they've got a whole planet to play with) you're looking at
about 250 million+ on Albion alone. Add to this the fact that if you
see current growth rates continuing for all the nations which go to make up
the NAC on Earth (see note below) and by 2188 the NAC
has at least 8-10 billion! Add to this another 16 systems of planets
I haven't tossed into the mix yet and we're looking at hefty populations. So
may be 300 million on my one decent planet isn't so bad for
a minor nation after all? Anyway just a thought - or am I just trying
to justify here? Probably:)
Now that note, if the UN's on the money (with respect to zero growth), they
expect us to have a global population of 10 billion by the close of the 21st
century (and my numbers above will be way out), on the other hand if you just
fit a curve to historical growth patterns you get 29 billion (sees me closer
to the mark). And for a number of reasons, which I'm not going to get into
here, I'm a tad sceptical about the UN's
growth projections - hey I'm a grad student we're trained to be
sceptical;)
Thanks again for all you're input.
Beth
> <Kurt.Wasserman@CAI.COM> writes:
P-torps are online, Commander Clem!
Targetting computer, however, isn't locking onto anything...
So...do you want a narrow salvo, or a full spread of pretty lights?
:-)
On Mon, 08 Mar 1999 16:21:37 -0500 (EST) "Something is hidden. Go and
> find it. (Kipling)" <KOCHTE@stsci.edu> writes:
Must be hard to live with such a curse
8^)
> On Mon, 8 Mar 1999, j a c wrote:
[snip]
> >P-torps are online, Commander Clem!
... especially when it spreads to unsuspecting third parties...
[grumble growl]
> >P-torps are online, Commander Clem!
Believe me, I'd rather have something like the Teske Field(tm) instead.
:-/
Mk
> At 05:28 PM 3/8/99 -0500, Indy wrote: