[GZG] Turnwheel Templates for Button Makers

18 posts ยท Apr 2 2007 to Apr 3 2007

From: Jerry Han <jhan@w...>

Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2007 00:21:28 -0400

Subject: [GZG] Turnwheel Templates for Button Makers

Hey everybody,

Something else people were asking about at GZG-ECC and I just remembered
to put it up as well:

http://www.warpfish.com/jhan/ft/turnwheel.pdf

These turning wheels are meant for bases or for little turning guides for
FT.  They're designed for "Badge-A-Minit" button makers, but, with a
little
scaling, could probably be used for other button makers as well -- or
just cut'em out and glue them to your favourite circles of cardboard. (Which
is a heck of a lot cheaper then buttons, if a tad more time consuming.
(8-) )

Though, if anybody out there has figured out a way to cut out consistent
circles out of cardboard or foamcore, and to do it quickly, I'd be
much obliged if they'd share the idea.  (8-)  (i.e. something faster
then tracing a template with a knife...)

Thanks, JGH

From: Roger Burton West <roger@f...>

Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 12:42:50 +0100

Subject: Re: [GZG] Turnwheel Templates for Button Makers

> On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 12:21:28AM -0400, Jerry Han wrote:

> Though, if anybody out there has figured out a way to cut out

The sort of circular cutter one uses for badge blanks? For example
http://www.buttonbadges.plus.com/Enterprise-Quick-cut.htm . It would
have to be fairly thin cardboard, though.

From: Doug Evans <devans@n...>

Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 06:48:57 -0500

Subject: Re: [GZG] Turnwheel Templates for Button Makers

I've tried swivel blades in a drafting compass. I'm afraid the compass was
particularly cheap and there was an unfortunate wobble, but you might have a
better set around to give a try.

The_Beast

Jerry wrote on 04/01/2007 11:21:28 PM:

> Hey everybody,

From: John K Lerchey <lerchey@a...>

Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 09:47:25 -0400 (EDT)

Subject: Re: [GZG] Turnwheel Templates for Button Makers

Hi Jerry,

Go back to the craft store. Buy a circle cutter.:)

John

> Hey everybody,

From: Jerry Han <jhan@w...>

Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2007 10:41:01 -0400

Subject: Re: [GZG] Turnwheel Templates for Button Makers

Oh, I've got several, but, as Roger pointed out, I quickly run into the
problem of 'too thick'.  (8-)

I was just wondering if anybody had heard of hole punches being available that
don't require an industrial press to use, for example. Or, heck, just
being able to buy pre-cut foamcore circles, as opposed to having to buy
the full sheet and going to town on it.

That's one reason why I ended up going with buttons -- I built a set of
50 bases in under three hours, including printing, figuring out how to make a
button, and cutting them out of the paper. I probably could have gone
even faster if I wasn't watching a football game at the time.  (8-)

JGH

> John Lerchey wrote:

From: John K Lerchey <lerchey@a...>

Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 10:46:13 -0400 (EDT)

Subject: Re: [GZG] Turnwheel Templates for Button Makers

Heh. Ok fair enough. I have used my circle cutter to do cardboard circles
using cardboard like the backs on paper tablets, but haven't done anything
thicker.

You could always get litko to laser cut them for you, but you would then

likely spend an absurd amount per disk.:)

J

John K. Lerchey Assistant Director for Incident Response Information Security
Office Carnegie Mellon University

> On Mon, 2 Apr 2007, Jerry Han wrote:

> Oh, I've got several, but, as Roger pointed out, I quickly run into

> tracing a template with a knife...)

From: Jerry Acord <acord@i...>

Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 09:56:27 -0500 (CDT)

Subject: Re: [GZG] Turnwheel Templates for Button Makers

> You could always get litko to laser cut them for you, but you would

I'm not sure what size you're after, but Litko has 60mm diameter 3mm plywood
bases, $16 for 100. That doesn't sound too bad.

Cheers,

From: Doug Evans <devans@n...>

Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 09:58:15 -0500

Subject: Re: [GZG] Turnwheel Templates for Button Makers

> That's one reason why I ended up going with buttons -- I built a set

Hmmm.... not sure this is a good idea if you are using razor cutters AND
watching the game. Those game aids wouldn't work so well splotched with
blood, though they'd seem more apropos for a wargame. ;->=

Interestingly, I typo'd 'wouldn't' by typing too quickly and started with
'wound'.

Freud lives.

The_Beast

From: John K Lerchey <lerchey@a...>

Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 11:03:48 -0400 (EDT)

Subject: Re: [GZG] Turnwheel Templates for Button Makers

That's actually not bad at all.:)

J

John K. Lerchey Assistant Director for Incident Response Information Security
Office Carnegie Mellon University

> On Mon, 2 Apr 2007 acord@imagiware.com wrote:

> You could always get litko to laser cut them for you, but you would

From: Doug Evans <devans@n...>

Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 10:04:03 -0500

Subject: Re: [GZG] Turnwheel Templates for Button Makers

Oh, I just realized I did something like this with Visio, using two 6-pt
stars, one rotated 30 degrees, with the top one showing the fire arcs.

I was thinking about trying to print small ones on label paper; fiddly, but
might work for flat bases. The domed hex ones seem a stretch, though I was
also thinkng of cutting into pie shapes and slapping them on that way.

The_Beast

From: Doug Evans <devans@n...>

Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 10:10:08 -0500

Subject: Re: [GZG] Turnwheel Templates for Button Makers

Well, they were talking about cutting out the turning diagrams, and if you're
going to have Litko do them, I'm thinking you might as well have them in
plastic etched anyway.

Other Jerry wrote on 04/02/2007 09:56:27 AM:

> > You could always get litko to laser cut them for you,

Forgot to mention that I don't recall if I was one of those clamoring for the
rules to be posted, or merely thought it, but big thanks as well,
Jerry-in-the-first-case! ;->=

The_Beast

From: John K Lerchey <lerchey@a...>

Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 11:12:05 -0400 (EDT)

Subject: RE: [GZG] Turnwheel Templates for Button Makers

Yeah. I have some of those. I would not recommend them for things like

foamcore.  The bits are generally not very sharp/precise and will rip
the edges to shreds.:)

J

John K. Lerchey Assistant Director for Incident Response Information Security
Office Carnegie Mellon University

> On Mon, 2 Apr 2007, andy wrote:

> There are a few drill bits I have seen for cutting circular holes in

From: Tony Francis <tony.francis@k...>

Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2007 16:15:28 +0100

Subject: Re: [GZG] Turnwheel Templates for Button Makers

Known (in the UK at least) as 'tank cutters' - because their original
use was cutting pipe holes in water tanks! I've used them to cut MDF
disks for basing trees - their main problem is that they need a pilot
hole to guide the cutter, so the disk comes with a ~6mm hole on the centre (so
they're more like a giant MDF washer). This may or may not be

a problem depending on what you need the disks for.

> andy wrote:

> There are a few drill bits I have seen for cutting circular holes in

From: Doug Evans <devans@n...>

Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 10:27:45 -0500

Subject: RE: [GZG] Turnwheel Templates for Button Makers

On the other, other hand, if you pasted printed sheets on thin wood board, had
a VERY slow turning drill, and found some dowels the right size for the center
hole, you could use 'em for ships bases as well. Add a little
lacquer/varnish/whatever, and away you go. Hmm...

Otherwise, exactly as you say, with the added fun of the shreddings launched
at impressive velocity. Snowstorm!

The_Beast

John wrote on 04/02/2007 10:12:05 AM:

> Yeah. I have some of those. I would not recommend them

From: Laserlight <laserlight@q...>

Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2007 10:42:06 -0500 (CDT)

Subject: Re: RE: [GZG] Turnwheel Templates for Button Makers

> There are a few drill bits I have seen for cutting circular holes in

I have a couple of those and they work with wood...I'd be surprised if it
worked with card or plastic, though.

From: Andrew Apter <andya@s...>

Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 10:59:27 -0500

Subject: RE: [GZG] Turnwheel Templates for Button Makers

There are a few drill bits I have seen for cutting circular holes in wood and
plaster board.

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From: Mike Hillsgrove <mikeah@c...>

Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2007 11:54:43 -0500

Subject: Re: [GZG] Turnwheel Templates for Button Makers

Or you can just go to Michaels or Craft City for the same thing cheaper.

From: Jerry Han <jhan@w...>

Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2007 22:32:23 -0400

Subject: Re: [GZG] Turnwheel Templates for Button Makers

> John Lerchey wrote:

I've never heard of these guys, interesting website. I need to look at them
closer, for future supplies if I need them...

And yeah, I first tried using those circular drill bits with foam core.
Not good.  Not good at all.  (8-)  I've never tried working with wood,
because I don't really have a proper workshop; living in an apartment,
there are limits to what you can do on a living room floor.  (8-)

> Jerry the Other wrote:

Glad to hear it!

JGH