From: Hudak, Michael <mihudak@s...>
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 09:14:32 -0500
Subject: [GZG] SSDs for new ships
Hello everyone, Just a last minute request before ECC...... Does anyone have SSDs for the new ships from GZG? Looking for the new style NAC, ESU and pirates. Thanks.
From: Indy Kochte <kochte@s...>
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 09:35:56 -0500
Subject: Re: [GZG] SSDs for new ships
_______________________________________________ Gzg-l mailing list Gzg-l@lists.csua.berkeley.edu http://lists.csua.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gzg-lOn 2/13/07, Hudak, > Michael <mihudak@state.pa.us> wrote: I don't believe there are any official. You'll hafta make 'em up yerself - like I'm doing right now! :-D Mk
From: Hudak, Michael <mihudak@s...>
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 09:39:56 -0500
Subject: RE: [GZG] SSDs for new ships
Heh, no sweat there.... was planning on using old ssd's for them anyways.
Was curious if any were out for the pirates though, as they're supposed
to be a hodge-podge of equipment. Those will take a bit of work.
> On 2/13/07, Hudak, Michael <mihudak@state.pa.us> wrote:
Hello everyone,
Just a last minute request before ECC......
Does anyone have SSDs for the new ships from GZG?
Looking for the new style NAC, ESU and pirates.
I don't believe there are any official. You'll hafta make 'em up
yerself - like I'm doing right now! :-D
Mk
From: Roger Burton West <roger@f...>
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 14:43:20 +0000
Subject: Re: [GZG] SSDs for new ships
> On Tue, Feb 13, 2007 at 09:35:56AM -0500, Indy wrote: > I don't believe there are any official. You'll hafta make 'em up I'll be glad to extend my usual offer to ECC people - if you can't run my ship design software, give me a set of designs and I'll give you back a PDF.
From: Hudak, Michael <mihudak@s...>
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 09:44:55 -0500
Subject: RE: [GZG] SSDs for new ships
Thanks for the offer Roger. Where is your software located? > -----Original Message-----
From: Roger Burton West <roger@f...>
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 14:59:08 +0000
Subject: Re: [GZG] SSDs for new ships
> On Tue, Feb 13, 2007 at 09:44:55AM -0500, Hudak, Michael wrote:
From: Hudak, Michael <mihudak@s...>
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 10:00:12 -0500
Subject: RE: [GZG] SSDs for new ships
Thanks Roger. I'll give ya 2 days to get your new version out..... :-) Thanks again. > -----Original Message-----
From: Laserlight <laserlight@q...>
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 09:10:02 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Re: RE: [GZG] SSDs for new ships
> Was curious if any were out for the pirates though "Pirates"? You mean Freelance Wealth Redistribution and Hassle-Free Import Services?
From: Hudak, Michael <mihudak@s...>
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 10:13:19 -0500
Subject: RE: RE: [GZG] SSDs for new ships
Freelance Wealth Redistribution... Sure....
From: VinsFullThrust@a...
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 10:53:05 EST
Subject: Re: [GZG] SSDs for new ships
_______________________________________________ Gzg-l mailing list Gzg-l@lists.csua.berkeley.edu http://lists.csua.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gzg-l In a message dated 2/13/2007 6:16:06 AM Pacific Standard Time, > mihudak@state.pa.us writes: Hello everyone, Just a last minute request before ECC...... Does anyone have SSDs for the new ships from GZG? Looking for the new style NAC, ESU and pirates. Thanks. And of course I have my personal designs for both the NEW ESU and NEW NAC at my websight... http://www.geocities.com/vinsfullthrust/FTHome.html Vince
From: Doug Evans <devans@n...>
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 10:29:19 -0600
Subject: Re: [GZG] SSDs for new ships
Mein Gott im Himmel! NINE squadrons? The_Beast Vince wrote on 02/13/2007 09:53:05 AM: ... > And of course I have my personal designs for both the NEW
From: Indy Kochte <kochte@s...>
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 12:18:59 -0500
Subject: Re: [GZG] SSDs for new ships
_______________________________________________ Gzg-l mailing list Gzg-l@lists.csua.berkeley.edu http://lists.csua.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gzg-lOn 2/13/07, Roger > Burton West <roger@firedrake.org> wrote: Can your tool do grasers and AMTs?? :-) Mk
From: Roger Burton West <roger@f...>
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 17:45:17 +0000
Subject: Re: [GZG] SSDs for new ships
> On Tue, Feb 13, 2007 at 12:18:59PM -0500, Indy wrote: > Can your tool do grasers and AMTs?? :-) Yes. Though I think the version available for download doesn't - they were still private test systems at that point. R
From: Doug Evans <devans@n...>
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 12:02:53 -0600
Subject: Re: [GZG] SSDs for new ships
So, if I'm following the thread, new toys are available only if designs are submitted to you directly, when you will do your magic? VERY generous of you to do the effort! I hope the designers will be equally generous in sharing the results. ;->= Those that can, do, those that can't, thank their a**es off. The_Beast Mr. Burton West on 02/13/2007 08:43:20 AM: > On Tue, Feb 13, 2007 at 09:35:56AM -0500, Indy wrote: RBW wrote on 02/13/2007 08:59:08 AM: > On Tue, Feb 13, 2007 at 09:44:55AM -0500, Hudak, Michael wrote: RBW wrote on 02/13/2007 11:45:17 AM: > On Tue, Feb 13, 2007 at 12:18:59PM -0500, Indy wrote:
From: Indy Kochte <kochte@s...>
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 13:13:47 -0500
Subject: Re: [GZG] SSDs for new ships
_______________________________________________ Gzg-l mailing list Gzg-l@lists.csua.berkeley.edu http://lists.csua.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gzg-lOn 2/13/07, Roger > Burton West <roger@firedrake.org> wrote: I've got four ship designs to send you for ECC. :-D Mk
From: Roger Burton West <roger@f...>
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 18:15:31 +0000
Subject: Re: [GZG] SSDs for new ships
> On Tue, Feb 13, 2007 at 12:02:53PM -0600, Doug Evans wrote: Basically, yes. That wasn't the way I intended it, but it seems a fair thing to make life easier for people running games at the ECC. R
From: Peter Thoenen <eol1@y...>
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 10:33:28 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: [GZG] SSDs for new ships
Has anybody decided to write some fluff or incorporate these new ships into the timeline? E.g. why did the NAC roll out all new ships... are these post-Kra'Vak invasion designs (and if so, maybe the new SSD's should reflect anti-Kra'Vak tactics). I figure real life sales drove it but I hate history rewrites... technobabble + fluff would be appreciated.
From: VinsFullThrust@a...
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 13:44:55 EST
Subject: Re: [GZG] SSDs for new ships
_______________________________________________ Gzg-l mailing list Gzg-l@lists.csua.berkeley.edu http://lists.csua.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gzg-l In a message dated 2/13/2007 10:33:56 AM Pacific Standard Time, > eol1@yahoo.com writes: Has anybody decided to write some fluff or incorporate these new ships into the timeline? E.g. why did the NAC roll out all new ships... are these post-Kra'Vak invasion designs (and if so, maybe the new SSD's should reflect anti-Kra'Vak tactics). Actually, in my campeign here in Ohio NAC and ESU rolled out new designed based on the following.. NAC and ESU are both 2 factions rolled in to 1. NAC being basically Brittish/American. Brittish layed down their designs then the Americans layed theirs down. Use NAC much like NATO. Still letting the Brittish and Americans run their own naval productions, but of course share their designs and use in fleets.. For ESU, its the Russians and Chinese.. Russians did not have the financial ability to build and maintane a fleet. So with cooperation from the Chinese, and agreement made that the first line of ships would be comissioned primarily for Russian ideas and use, and later designs initiated by the Chinese. In short, The chinese supply the money and the Russians supply the builing ability. And like the NAC, the ESU maintane their own forces but share their usage of ships ina fleet... Vince
From: Indy Kochte <kochte@s...>
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 13:54:49 -0500
Subject: Re: [GZG] SSDs for new ships
_______________________________________________ Gzg-l mailing list Gzg-l@lists.csua.berkeley.edu http://lists.csua.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gzg-lOn 2/13/07, Peter > Thoenen <eol1@yahoo.com> wrote: are > these post-Kra'Vak invasion designs (and if so, maybe the new SSD's In the current timeline I am mucking about with, the new ships are the next generation designs from a decades-long war between the NAC/ESU/FSE/NI and the NSL/IJN(/UNSC)/IF. You see, in this particular timeline, Nazi Germany (and thusly Imperial Japan) won WWII due to some interferences from 2179 (the UNSC is now a puppet of these two powers). This coming weekend (ECC X for those who haven't been paying attention ;-) ) will tell the tale of whether or not this timeline snaps back to the GZG canon timeline (and the ships are the result of designs after the K'V encounters and Siege of Sol) or if the Nazi Stratocratic League is successful in thwarting the NAC (et al) from preventing the interference from happening in the first place. Cross your fingers that the NSL ultimately lose - I don't want to have to run more alternate timeline events at ECC XI ! :-) Mk
From: VinsFullThrust@a...
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 14:05:01 EST
Subject: Re: [GZG] SSDs for new ships
_______________________________________________ Gzg-l mailing list Gzg-l@lists.csua.berkeley.edu http://lists.csua.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gzg-l In a message dated 2/13/2007 10:55:26 AM Pacific Standard Time, > indy.kochte@gmail.com writes: In the current timeline I am mucking about with, the new ships are the next generation designs from a decades-long war between the NAC/ESU/FSE/NI and the NSL/IJN(/UNSC)/IF. You see, in this particular timeline, Nazi Germany (and thusly Imperial Japan) won WWII due to some interferences from 2179 (the UNSC is now a puppet of these two powers). This coming weekend (ECC X for those who haven't been paying attention ;-) ) will tell the tale of whether or not this timeline snaps back to the GZG canon timeline (and the ships are the result of designs after the K'V encounters and Siege of Sol) or if the Nazi Stratocratic League is successful in thwarting the NAC (et al) from preventing the interference from happening in the first place. Cross your fingers that the NSL ultimately lose - I don't want to have to run more alternate timeline events at ECC XI ! :-) Mk LOL My timeline goes the NSL is nuetral.. IJN / NAC vs FSE / ESU NAC - Anericans got tired of the French starting crap and the americans having to finish it.. Remember Vietnam?? Japanese and Russians already have a bloody history, now that the chinese are part of the ESU, only makes sense to reclaim land lost in WW2 :-)
From: John Brewer <jbrewer@w...>
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 00:43:50 GMT
Subject: RE: [GZG] SSDs for new ships
(tries to make voice sound like the opening to "One Step Beyond" by Madness) HEY, YOU! DON'T DO DAT! DO DIS!! These are not "offical" but these will save you time making up SSD's for the NAC... http://members.iinet.net.au/~stub/Full%20Thrust.html JBrewer@webtv.net "Always strive to be a good person. If you can't do that, at least strive to be someone other than an asshole." [quoted original message omitted]
From: David <dluff@e...>
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 11:49:13 +0000
Subject: RE: [GZG] SSDs for new ships
Thanks for your designs. I saw them over at SCN a while ago and have been using them ever since. I like the design philosophy and the story line behind the design decisions. I recommend everyone at least give them a look. David Stokes > -------Original Message-------
From: Hudak, Michael <mihudak@s...>
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 07:57:17 -0500
Subject: RE: [GZG] SSDs for new ships
Thanks.... Now I have two lists for NAC. Now does anyone have SSDs for the new ESU? (I saw Vin's page, but didn't see a link for ESU) [quoted original message omitted]
From: Doug Evans <devans@n...>
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 07:55:38 -0600
Subject: RE: [GZG] SSDs for new ships
He's got them; just needs to add the link to the page. Vince? ;->= The_Beast Marvelous Mr. Hudak wrote on 02/14/2007 06:57:17 AM: > Thanks.... Now I have two lists for NAC. Now does anyone
From: Charles Lee <xarcht@y...>
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 10:09:37 -0800 (PST)
Subject: RE: [GZG] SSDs for new ships
I'm willin to design some Caltex ssds > --- "Hudak, Michael" <mihudak@state.pa.us> wrote: > Thanks.... Now I have two lists for NAC. Now does http://lists.csua.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gzg-l > > _______________________________________________ http://lists.csua.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gzg-l
From: VinsFullThrust@a...
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 17:23:35 EST
Subject: Re: [GZG] SSDs for new ships
_______________________________________________ Gzg-l mailing list Gzg-l@lists.csua.berkeley.edu http://lists.csua.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gzg-lIn a message dated 2/14/2007 8:56:13 AM Eastern Standard Time, > devans@nebraska.edu writes: He's got them; just needs to add the link to the page. Vince? ;->= The_Beast Marvelous Mr. Hudak wrote on 02/14/2007 06:57:17 AM: > Thanks.... Now I have two lists for NAC. Now does anyone http://www.geocities.com/vinsfullthrust/ESU_New.html There is the address... Vince