[GZG] some size debates

10 posts ยท Jul 18 2005 to Jul 20 2005

From: jason standlea <freke_ravenshammer@y...>

Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 08:25:19 -0700 (PDT)

Subject: [GZG] some size debates

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Last time I checked, the general opinion was that a Star Wars Imperial SD was
a 1600 meter ship. Personally, I tried making them very large dreadnoughts
when I converted them to FT (which a lot of people didnt agree with *chuckle*
), but I that was because I simply didnt want a 'super ship' that I'd have to
design and laborously hack together a SSD for. What's you guys general opinion
on how much FT mass that translates into?

Also, does anyone have a length in meters for B5's Omega 'destroyer'?

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From: Samuel Penn <sam@b...>

Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 16:40:42 +0100 (BST)

Subject: Re: [GZG] some size debates

On Mon, July 18, 2005 16:25, jason standlea said:
> Trying to drag the list back from bad sheep jokes, convention

Something to keep in mind with an ISD - it is more than just
a dreadnaught - they are a mobile representation of the Empire,
capable of reducing planetary civilisations to slag. The carry large numbers
of fighters, troops and heavy ground assualt vehicles as well as just being
something to attach weapons to.

Personally, I don't think FT can handle ISDs effectively, though my recent
watching of the IMPs film has made me want to try again.

> Also, does anyone have a length in meters for B5's Omega 'destroyer'?

About the same size. If you haven't, have a look at:

http://www.merzo.net/

From: Charles Taylor <charles.taylor@c...>

Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 19:03:26 +0100

Subject: Re: [GZG] some size debates

In message <20050718152519.23482.qmail@web30210.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
> jason standlea <freke_ravenshammer@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Trying to drag the list back from bad sheep jokes, convention

Well, depends what role you're using them for, if they're the
equivalent of big capitals (i.e. the largest non-super-ship in play),
then 250-500 MASS.
> Also, does anyone have a length in meters for B5's Omega 'destroyer'?
Well, I know it can be definitely shown that it is _not_ about 1717m,
I think the best value (based on comparisons with B5, the size of
which _is_ known) is between 1200 and 1320m.

Oh, and there is _no_Way_ that White Stars are 465m long, 465' OTOH...

Almost all B5 ship sizes quoted on the Web are wrong, probably
including these :-)

You may have guessed this is a long-standing gripe for me :-)

From: Robert N Bryett <rbryett@g...>

Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 11:38:46 +1000

Subject: RE: [GZG] some size debates

> I think the best value (based on comparisons with B5, the size of

Isn't B5 supposed to be about five miles (8047 metres) long?

From: Don M <dmaddox1@h...>

Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 20:56:52 -0500

Subject: Re: [GZG] some size debates

Isn't B5 supposed to be about five miles (8047 metres) long?

Best regards, Robert Bryett.

And all alone in the night.....)

From: Robert N Bryett <rbryett@g...>

Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 12:01:27 +1000

Subject: RE: [GZG] some size debates

Ooops! Sorry... I just realised I miss-read the posting and 1200m was
the length of a ship compared to B5, not B5 itself.

My bad, Robert Bryett...

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From: Gregory Wong <sax@s...>

Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 23:16:34 -0700

Subject: Re: [GZG] some size debates

I think Red Dwarf is supposed to be 5 miles long.

--Greg

> On Jul 18, 2005, at 6:38 PM, R. Bryett wrote:

> I think the best value (based on comparisons with B5, the size of

From: Charles Taylor <charles.taylor@c...>

Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 19:18:19 +0100

Subject: Re: [GZG] some size debates

In message <675e5bf32eeb7b6844cf4cb169ff2a2f@SoundingRocket.com>
> Gregory Wong <sax@soundingrocket.com> wrote:

> I think Red Dwarf is supposed to be 5 miles long.

[snip]

IIRC some sources claim 15 km for Red Dwarf, the only definitive info (again
IIRC) that I can think of as to its size is the fact that it
has 20,000 odd decks (going all the way down took several _hours_ by
express lift ;-). Determining the size of the ship from this info is
left as an exercise for the reader/viewer :-)

From: VinsFullThrust@a...

Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 21:29:18 EDT

Subject: Re: [GZG] some size debates

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In a message dated 7/19/2005 6:56:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> dmaddox1@hot.rr.com writes:

Isn't B5 supposed to be about five miles (8047 metres) long?

Best regards, Robert Bryett.

And all alone in the night.....)

yes, by opening comentary, Babylon is 5 miles long. Home to humans and
aliens...
Now by comparis9on and judging, an earth Omega destroyer is like 1/4 the

length of B5... And that makes the Minbari Sharlin cruisers very BIG!!!

Vince

From: Don M <dmaddox1@h...>

Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 21:19:37 -0500

Subject: Re: [GZG] some size debates

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Minbari Sharlin cruisers very BIG!!!

Going by the size of the (not Fleet Action) models I've Always run them as
BDNs.

Don