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http://mail.csua.berkeley.edu:8080/mailman/listinfo/gzg-lSo the FSE
military seems pretty well armed in comparison to the other three
nations (using gauss weapons when the NAC/NSL/ESU are all using
cased/caseless slug-throwers), but I'm wondering what sort of vehicles I
should use for them? Tracked vehicles are flexible and resilient, but grav
vehicles seem to fit the Federat high-tech image a bit better.
I figured the best resource is to ask the SG/DS players of this
wonderful mailing list what vehicles you usually use with your FSE troops?
Thanks in advance.
- Seamus
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http://mail.csua.berkeley.edu:8080/mailman/listinfo/gzg-lMy approach has
been:
Major Militaries have all varieties of vehicles. Gamers go with themes,
militaries go with capabilities and major militaries have to project power
into every corner of their empires and operate in all sorts of climates and
planetary conditions as well as in space. This applies to mobility types as
well as weapon types. Nobody lacks some HEL units (range!) or plasma units
(shock) and nobody lacks grav (mobile hitters or scouts over all terrain), ACV
(good over water and sloughs as well as plains or deserts) and tracked and
wheeled (for cheaper ops, for more rugged country where grav is not
justified). Of course, you can throw in VTOL and Riverine.
Major Militaries: ESU, NAC, FSE, NSL in my opinion. UNSC later in canon
timeline.
ESU: Some smart folks working for some sort of antiquarian-thinking
neo-communists. The ESU strikes me as having a fair number of grav
vehicles, but theirs will tend to be of more robust and simpler approach. I
generally
give them slightly worse EW/ECM/Stealth/Decoys/etc. than their NAC
counterparts. Certainly some of their territorial troops (militia) would use
wheeled or tracked vehicles if their particular AO permits. But larger
Confederation Marine and mobile Army units would have to be equiped with
more flexible vehicles - ACV or Grav. In my take, they like big guns and
have less electronic capability than the NAC. They have some excellent
super-heavy PA (in 25mm, I use old school heavy gears which are class 1
vehicles) and reasonable standard PA.
NAC: They like heavy armour, good electronics and FC, moderate sized weapons
(maybe 1 class lower than the ESU) and things like Stealth, Decoys, Jammers,
recce drones, etc. They opt for crew protection over offense. They are medium
in the speed department. They tend to use Grav for the Marines and some mobile
mainforce units and grav, wheeled or ACV for territorials. They have some very
good normal PA (fast, tough, well electronically equipped).
FSE: Again, they probably have all types of mobility. But I see them as having
an FSE Army but this army being more patchwork than the ESU or NAC due to how
the FSE is constructed (of different nations, with each nation supplying gear
meant to interop but likely built in their nation or its
holdings). The Army probably has a mix - in mobile units, mostly grav
and ACV, in local forces more oriented to wheeled or tracked as appropriate.
For the legion, I'm a historical fan so I stick with them getting the short
end of the gear stick so they often have smaller% of grav in favour of GEV and
more wheeled vehicles (to allow limited strategic self-deployment, more
than tracked). The trade off is generally a bit worse electronics and FC than
the
NAC and armour not up to either of the others either - just older gear
generally or simpler gear that was more cost effective. The Army's good units
that are expected to be mobile get better gear than the Colonial Legion.
French PA, for example, is not terribly well known for speed or armour, but
they do carry a fair number of rocket packs to increase firepower.
NSL: I see the NSL as being highly mobile (relatively speaking). They
understand blitzes and deep exploitations and mechanized and armoured warfare.
They employ a lot of ACV (to allow more of their force to be
fast-mobile than if they sunk money heavily into grav) where feasible.
They have excellent fire controls and reasonable defensive systems. Armour is
also reasonable but in some cases may be light to allow for more speed. Their
infantry are rarely mobile in wheeled or tracked vehicles and usually have the
capability to keep up with fast moving armoured attacks. Their light and heavy
PA also tend to be faster and have good FC but at the cost of some armour
weight.
UNSC: In the early going, an ineffectual (under budgeted) mix of gear bought
from competitors and national government's hand-me-downs. Later on,
their own home brew gear and ending up being some of the most advanced in
human space. My choices here are influenced by the fact I use Tau Devilfish
and
Hammerheads for their vehicles - so heavily VTOL/Grav with fast, very
mobile, well armoured PA. Their heavy PA is a bit slower, but makes up for it
in FP. They tend to be very heavily (% wise) mobile reaction forces and tend
to do less long term garrisoning than other nations.
For my FSE legion, I use 6x6 wheeled AIFVs. Those are backed up by some
wheeled tanks and the PA. The legion makes due with cheaper gear, fewer guys,
and all the nasty assignments. C'est la guerre!
> On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 02:17:47AM -0400, Tom B wrote:
> ESU: Some smart folks working for some sort of antiquarian-thinking
"Yeah, sure, it breaks down every day. But I can fix it in five minutes, even
with half the engine shot away. These things need to be maintained by
conscripts."
> NAC: They like heavy armour, good electronics and FC, moderate sized
"I wanted to be a starship pilot, but I couldn't get into the Navy. If it
takes this many controls just to run an APC, how the hell do the starship guys
manage?"
> FSE: Again, they probably have all types of mobility.
"So the Foudroyant broke down, and we didn't have any grav modules in stock.
But some bright spark noticed we still had a spare lower hull from the
Tarantellas we'd upgraded last year, and that runs off EUBus Four same as the
Foudroyants. So now we're a grav cavalry unit with eight floaters and one
walker."
> NSL: I see the NSL as being highly mobile (relatively speaking).
"Not so much 'speed is armour' as 'get in, blow them up, and get out, before
they've noticed you're there'. We leave the heavy armour to the fleet boys."
> UNSC: In the early going, an ineffectual (under budgeted) mix of gear
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