Folks,
Thanks for the responses. While appreciated, none of them actually answered
the question that I asked, which was,
"Does anyone have a mapping of gzg vehicles to the Tuffleyverse nations?"
While you certainly are encouraged to continue to entertain everyone with
how you set up your forces, and which non-gzg minis you use, I'm going
to assume that the answer to the question that I asked is, "No."
Oh well. I guess I'll do what y'all do and just make something up.
Thanks!
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http://lists.csua.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gzg-lThey all had
mappings. IIRC you didn't say you were after an official mapping.
Roger
> On 10/11/05, John K Lerchey <lerchey@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
I think that in my original post, I said, "official or unofficial", assuming
that maybe someone did a "not done by Jon" mapping. I've never
seen anything on this subject offiically, but would have to think that the
DSII range of minis were designed with some ideas for which nations get what
vehicles, rather than the "oh, this looks cool, let's build one and
someone will use them for something" approach. I was hoping to see a listing
of what the vehicles were intended for, nationally.
:)
J
John K. Lerchey Computer and Network Security Coordinator Computing Services
Carnegie Mellon University
> On Tue, 11 Oct 2005, Roger Books wrote:
> They all had mappings. IIRC you didn't say you were after an
> They all had mappings. IIRC you didn't say you were after an official
More, a mapping of JUST GZG to nations, I think.The lists tended to be GZG for
some nations, other company for others.
I always just assumed that anything as small as tanks would lack a national
flavor, and be whatever any particular corporation had on sale. ;->=
The_Beast
I think that in my original post, I said, "official or unofficial", assuming
that maybe someone did a "not done by Jon" mapping. I've never
seen anything on this subject offiically, but would have to think that the
DSII range of minis were designed with some ideas for which nations get what
vehicles, rather than the "oh, this looks cool, let's build one and
someone will use them for something" approach. I was hoping to see a listing
of what the vehicles were intended for, nationally.
I think looking at the line that Jon used the Hammer's Slammers approach
to manufacturing...i.e. a few mega-corporations sell to everyone.
That's the feel I get from his line.
Beast,
Yeah, could be. But I would still think that there could be some level of at
least "national tendency" to buy certain vehicles. Like maybe the NSL just
doesn't like the Phalanx APC and tends to use a different one. Or maybe the
FSE doesn't use hover vehicles because of maintenance issues.
<shrug>.
Since there *are* gzg nations listed, it could be nice to have some level of
official guideance as to what they would tend to field.:)
J
John K. Lerchey Computer and Network Security Coordinator Computing Services
Carnegie Mellon University
> On Tue, 11 Oct 2005, Doug Evans wrote:
> They all had mappings. IIRC you didn't say you were after an
John, I was only semi-serious about the corp. Imagine my amused surprise
to
see Don say the same thing. ;->=
Actually, I think I remember someone doing something similar to just what you
said, but limited to a few vehicles and a few nations. I'll be damned if I can
figure out how to search in the archives for it, though.
Honest, I hadn't ignored your original request, just got caught up in the
subsequent discussion.
The_Beast
Doug,
No problem. The responses were good, and interesting. Just not actual answers
to my question.:)
Thanks,
J
John K. Lerchey Computer and Network Security Coordinator Computing Services
Carnegie Mellon University
> On Tue, 11 Oct 2005, Doug Evans wrote:
> John, I was only semi-serious about the corp. Imagine my amused
> On Tuesday 11 October 2005 19:27, John K Lerchey wrote:
I started doing this for the NSL - I think they are all GZG vehicles,
though I could of course be wrong. Didn't get much further than NSL and some
low tech rebels, and still haven't got as far as organising a game (or
finishing the designs).
http://www.glendale.org.uk/dirtside/
> On 11 Oct 2005 at 14:50, John K Lerchey wrote:
> I think that in my original post, I said, "official or unofficial",
Both the Future Wars range and the bulk of the GZG 25mm vehicle range
(on which the 6mm Dirtside minisatures are based) predate the GZG-
verse background so any mapping would have to be made after the fact.
The only "official" mapping are those given in SG2, which in case you don't
have that book is:
NAC - Phalanx (DSM-104), Paladin (DSM-103),
Hoplite/Hunter/Defender/Striker series (DSM-105/106/107/115)
NSL - Gauntlet (DSM-101)
FSE and OU - Wombat (DSM-112)
Everything else is up to the players.
John, I was only semi-serious about the corp. Imagine my amused surprise
to
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> Lerchey <lerchey@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
Won't this be partly dependent upon the terrain in which they will be
fighting? I mean, you aren't going to be bringing a bunch of hover tanks to
do battle on an atmosphere-less planet or moon, now would ya?
Or...maybe you would...
;-)
Mk
Steve,
THANKS! That's as good of an answer as I could possibley expect.:)
J
John K. Lerchey Computer and Network Security Coordinator Computing Services
Carnegie Mellon University
> On Tue, 11 Oct 2005, Steve Pugh wrote:
> On 11 Oct 2005 at 14:50, John K Lerchey wrote:
*I* would, but then again, better people than you have called me stupid!
;)
J
John K. Lerchey Computer and Network Security Coordinator Computing Services
Carnegie Mellon University
> On Tue, 11 Oct 2005, Indy wrote:
> On 10/11/05, John K Lerchey <lerchey@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
Or
> maybe the FSE doesn't use hover vehicles because of maintenance
> Thanks for the responses. While appreciated, none of them actually
I'm jumping in late here, having not read the previous stuff, but there is a
small amount of this at the back of the Stargrunt rulebook in the TO&E
section, indicating which states some of the vehicles are used by.
The Phalanx, for example, is an NAC vehicle.
> Beast,
Well, the simple explanation is that the 25mm vehicle line (which came before
the 6mm one) was designed and produced BEFORE the
"official" GZG-verse was ever thought of! Originally they were just a
selection of generic vehicle designs that people could use with whatever
figures they liked (at that time, in the late '80s, I didn't
make figures - just resin stuff!). Hence none of them were designed
with the NAC, ESU etc in mind. Then, when FT 2nd ed came out in 1991,
suddenly we had a Universe - but I didn't want to tie specific
vehicles in to specific powers because I felt that would tie down
people's freedom of choice - you know what some players are like - so
we kept a generic "use whatever you think is cool" outlook.
For what it's worth, when we've done forces for demo games and stuff
like that, I tend to use the following - but this should NOT be taken
as an "official" endorsement, it's just a guideline as to my own preferences!!
NAC: Phalanx/Paladin/MMRAV series
NSL: Gauntlet, Slammer, Goliath, Rommel, hover jeep FSE: Wombat, Gladiator
ESU: Leviathan UNSC: Kivruzh, Avrazh etc (now OOP in 25mm)
Jon (GZG)
> John K. Lerchey