[GZG] Quick question

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From: Robert Mayberry <robert.mayberry@g...>

Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 22:35:26 -0400

Subject: [GZG] Quick question

Sorry if this has been answered already, but I was wondering if (long term)
GZG intends to release more of its Future Wars and Dirtside 6mm miniatures,
especially vehicles, in 15mm scale?

I plan on getting a platoon or two of Stargrunt troops and while most of the
miniatures I want are either available or can be readily converted, the
vehicles are a bit more of a question mark. I know there are good miniatures
available already, but I'm interested in keeping my Dirtside and my Stargrunt
forces harmonized.

Rob

From: Jaime Tiampo <fugu@s...>

Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 20:19:23 -0700 (PDT)

Subject: Re: [GZG] Quick question

> On Wed, May 14, 2008 7:35 pm, Robert Mayberry wrote:

I believe the answer is Yes. If not then Jon has a lot to answer for about
promising me Hoplites ;-)

From: Ground Zero Games <jon@g...>

Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 09:08:39 +0100

Subject: Re: [GZG] Quick question

> On Wed, May 14, 2008 7:35 pm, Robert Mayberry wrote:

OK then, quick straw poll to everyone here (or at least those seriously
interested in SG in 15mm):

Which of our 6mm (or 25mm) vehicles would you most like to see reproduced (and
be prepared to buy) in 15mm?

Jon (GZG)

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From: Stephen Bond <daibaka2000@y...>

Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 09:27:47 +0000 (GMT)

Subject: Re: [GZG] Quick question

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said: "OK then, quick straw poll to everyone here (or at least those seriously
interested in SG in 15mm):

Which of our 6mm (or 25mm) vehicles would you most like to see reproduced (and
be prepared to buy) in 15mm?

Jon (GZG)" I say (in order of desirability and likelihood to buy): ALL of the
Infantry walkers The AV6 and AV9 The LIPPC and M44 Coonhound The Heavy Hover
Tank The (dare I ask?) Tactical Interface Transport The Hoplite series of
modular 6 wheelers The Rangetruck All purely based on my own wants and needs!
Steve

From: Ground Zero Games <jon@g...>

Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 11:29:17 +0100

Subject: Re: [GZG] Quick question

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n said:
> "OK then, quick straw poll to everyone here (or at least those

OK Steve, all noted!  ;-)

Anyone else?

Jon (GZG)

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From: Indy Kochte <kochte@s...>

Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 07:36:50 -0400

Subject: Re: [GZG] Quick question

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> Thu, May 15, 2008 at 4:08 AM, Ground Zero Games <jon@gzg.com> wrote:

> >On Wed, May 14, 2008 7:35 pm, Robert Mayberry wrote:

The Wolf series (short barreled and long; two diff turret types, I beleive))
The Mamba series The Jupiter (tracked)
The Deimos (GEV/Grav)
The Kra'Vak line

Mk

From: Robert Mayberry <robert.mayberry@g...>

Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 08:08:14 -0400

Subject: Re: [GZG] Quick question

Well speaking JUST for myself:

I've got a pretty large DS army, but nothing for SG except some 40k miniatures
at the moment. I'm looking to get some figures to represent my DS army on the
15mm scale, then add a new army at both scales. The new one will use figures I
select specifically for compatibility across ranges. So this list is mostly
for my current army.

Rob's Hot List:

    AV6 Troop Transport (DSM-102) (VTOLs vary widely in look so it's
hard to find a close match from other ranges)

    Range Truck (DSM-122)

    Tactical Interface Transport (DSM-118)

Also great to have (I can replace these with miniatures from other ranges, but
I'd love to see them in 15mm.)

Tritonian II Tracked APC

Triton IV Tracked Missile Launcher (I've been using this as a
heavy APC w/ GMS/H)

    Boxcar Infantry Transport VTOL (DF-V04)

    SYCAT Tracked AA Tank (the modular chassis / turret options from
the FW series are really nice-- I also use the SIMCAT and HELLCAT tank
and artillery vehicles).

    AV9 VTOL GunshipC (DSM-108) (I don't use these heavily but again
VTOLs vary considerably between designers, and the AV6/9 are iconic to
GZG IMO)

I finally plan on kit-bashing together some PA snipers, but I can
imagine that the market for that will be limited to me.:)

Rob

> On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 6:29 AM, Ground Zero Games <jon@gzg.com> wrote:

From: Don M <dmaddox1@h...>

Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 07:08:43 -0500

Subject: Re: [GZG] Quick question

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[GZG] Quick questionALL of the Infantry walkers
The AV6 and AV9

The Mamba series

The Kra'Vak line

From: Jaime Tiampo <fugu@s...>

Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 06:59:23 -0700 (PDT)

Subject: Re: [GZG] Quick question

> On Thu, May 15, 2008 1:08 am, Ground Zero Games wrote:

> I believe the answer is Yes. If not then Jon has a lot to answer for

Hoplites? ;-) And a series of modular weapon arrangements for them

From: Evyn MacDude <infojunky@c...>

Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 09:16:14 -0700

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On May15 08, at 01:08, Ground Zero Games wrote

> Which of our 6mm (or 25mm) vehicles would you most like to see

AV-6 for starters

Evyn MacDude infojunky@ceecom.net

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From: Allan Goodall <agoodall@a...>

Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 11:31:48 -0500

Subject: Re: [GZG] Quick question

> On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 3:08 AM, Ground Zero Games <jon@gzg.com> wrote:

Phalon vehicles, to go along with the Phalon BDS rules, though this means
either creating new vehicles or basing them on the ones from the 25mm line.

If you intend to give Phalons PA I'd like those, though I personally like the
idea of them using the recon pods instead of PA (just so they aren't just a
copy of the other armies).

Other than that, probably Kra'Vak armour.

From: Evyn MacDude <infojunky@c...>

Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 09:52:25 -0700

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e is a better list.

> On May15 08, at 01:08, Ground Zero Games wrote:

> Which of our 6mm (or 25mm) vehicles would you most like to see

DSM 102 AV6 Troop Transport VTOL

SFA-27 Cargo Carrier

SF25-11 Police Patrol Aircar

SF25-27 Light Hover-Jeep (Civil/Military Scout Vehicle)

SF25-68 Maverick Police/Security Fancar

SF25-69AWheeled Flatbed Truck - Civilian full-cab style

SF25-69BWheeled Flatbed Truck - Civilian half-cab style

SF25-69CWheeled Flatbed Truck - Military armoured cab

SF25-69DWheeled Truck with civilian cab and Box Body

SF25-69EWheeled Truck with Command Post body

SF25-70A, B or C As for 25-69 A,B,C but with HOVER chassis

SF25-70D or E As for 25-69 D and E but with HOVER chassis

DF-S02 Tracked ammunition carrier/supply vehicle

DF-S04 HEMTT heavy wheeled cargo truck (canvas top)

DF-S05 HEMTT heavy wheeled cargo truck (flatbed)

DF-S07 Light GEV van (police/civilian)

DF-S08 Civilian vehicles pack

From: Tony Christney <tchristney@t...>

Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 10:22:53 -0700

Subject: Re: [GZG] Quick question

Must buy: Deimos Grav AV6

Nice to have:
AV-72 variants

Tony C.

> On 15-May-08, at 1:08 AM, Ground Zero Games wrote:

> On Wed, May 14, 2008 7:35 pm, Robert Mayberry wrote:

From: Eli Arndt <emu2020@c...>

Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 17:50:53 +0000

Subject: Re: [GZG] Quick question

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would love to see some GZG bipedal combat walkers in 15mm that included
weapon options in both carried and built-ins.. The AV series are cool,
though a bit "VOTOMish".

-Eli

> OK then, quick straw poll to everyone here (or at least those

From: Tom B <kaladorn@g...>

Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 13:57:46 -0400

Subject: Re: [GZG] Quick question

Speaking out of turn (by ignoring the fact you 15mm guys are Scalist
Heretics):

Some of the best models in 25mm:

- Hover Jeep (but if you are doing it in 15mm, you could think about
making a flatbed and a window-backed version rather than the closed
back standard one, and a box back version for an ambulance)
- Open topped hover jeep with the gun in the back
- Diemos AC tank
- Goliath AC tank
- Wombat AC APC
- Flatbed AC truck + MRL variant
- Rommel AC tank
- LIPPC wheeled APC
- Coonhound wheeled tank destroyer

My biggest disappointment, the one thing I *really* wish Jon made in 25mm and
would buy a handful of myself, is the Boxcar (I won't even ask for the super
boxcar, though it would be good too). I find both
infinitely preferable to the flying-brick like AV6/AV9 series. The
Boxcar and super Boxcar were excellent. I just wish they'd been made in 25mm.
(Still do!)

T.

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Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 18:18:10 +0000

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ething along these lines might be cool

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I would love to see some GZG bipedal combat walkers in 15mm that
included weapon options in both carried and built-ins.. The AV series
are cool, though a bit "VOTOMish".

-Eli

> OK then, quick straw poll to everyone here (or at least those

From: Eli Arndt <emu2020@c...>

Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 18:30:14 +0000

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ther thought too, It has been mentioned but I would second the Deimos and the
blower tanks and gun cars. I know there are already 15mm designs being done by
Old Crow, but I like the GZG designs.
-Eli

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Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 18:49:51 +0000

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ps...meant AT series, not AV

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something along these lines might be cool

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I would love to see some GZG bipedal combat walkers in 15mm that
included weapon options in both carried and built-ins.. The AV series
are cool, though a bit "VOTOMish".

-Eli

> OK then, quick straw poll to everyone here (or at least those

From: Enzo de Ianni <enzodeianni@t...>

Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 23:30:47 +0200

Subject: Re: [GZG] Quick question

I would second the request for more images (in the 6 mm section, for
example... I have no idea how the most part of the 6 mm items look like!)

From: Mark Kinsey <Kinseym@p...>

Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 19:29:27 -0400

Subject: Re: [GZG] Quick question

I've been waiting a year for this question. Putting up with *endless* sheep
jokes...

Here's my list.

1. Virnazh G-CAV grav assault APC
2. Weta Grav APC 3. Cockroach Heavy Grav Tank 4. Police Patrol Air Car

Something like the M-95 Calliope on a grav platform would be pretty cool

too. Maybe an add on for the existing grav flatbed?

-Mark

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From: Robert Mayberry <robert.mayberry@g...>

Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 23:17:35 -0400

Subject: Re: [GZG] Quick question

Oh, and one more thing....

The current New Israeli models wear hardsuits (my preference) in the 15mm
range and are described as light infantry (no pic) in the 6mm dirtside range.
I'd love to see both types available in both ranges. Basically, I like having
the same force organization at multiple
scales-- I also think it helps remove the temptation to optimize one
organization that you use in stargrunt and another that you play dirtside
with.

If I had to choose, I especially like the hardsuits, since my preference is
for full space suits for my infantry (ie except for militias, the only
infantry in my forces are hardsuit ("light") or power armor (standard);
infantry walkers are listed in my TO&E as "heavy infantry". The bases I've
made for my infantry have a "lunar" look since they are equipped to fight in
uninhabitable environments.

From: Peter Engebos <manfredvonbek@y...>

Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 20:25:25 -0700 (PDT)

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No particular order: The AV6 and AV9 the police fancar Sa'Vask'u Bikes

And the E'Tar in 15mm

Ground Zero Games <jon@gzg.com> wrote: Re: [GZG] Quick question Jon said:"OK
then, quick straw poll to everyone here (or at least those seriously
interested in SG in 15mm):

Which of our 6mm (or 25mm) vehicles would you most like to see reproduced (and
be prepared to buy) in 15mm?

Jon (GZG)"

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beams, mach 20 titanium rods and guided thermonuclear bombs. Some people say
we think that we're God. We're not God. We just borrowed his SMITE button for
our fire control system"

From: Ground Zero Games <jon@g...>

Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 14:11:39 +0100

Subject: Re: [GZG] Quick question

> Oh, and one more thing....

The 6mm NI are  the same as the 25mm and 15mm ones, in hardsuits -
the "light" description is as opposed to PA, though in hindsight I can see
that might be a little confusing! But rest assured the 6mm ones are very
accurate tiny versions of the larger scales. I have given some thought to some
actual "light" NI inf (unarmoured), and possibly some heavier PA as well....
it depends if folks would be interested enough to make them viable...?

Jon (GZG)

> If I had to choose, I especially like the hardsuits, since my