I found Tester's primers too slippery. Not interested in trying to sand a 25mm
figure!
I use Armoury Grey primer. I found their black too gritty for my taste.
Am I the *only* one who uses Grey? I find white lightens up overlaid colours
and black darkens them down. If I want the applied colour to appear as it does
in the paint pot (or as it would when painted on most tan cardstock), I prefer
the grey. If I use black, it
inevitably darkens things plus makes it hard to see figure detail -
shadow and primer combine to make it hard for me to see what I'm painting.
White, OTOH, makes it difficult to paint some colours on (I primed some UNSC
hardsuits white, tried painting them white, and then cursed myself). Grey
seems to be a good base colour for most greens or sand colours (common
camouflage colours).
Automotive primers I find tend to be too slick for my taste, though some of
them might not be bad.
I haven't yet tried airbrush primers, but it struck me they'd go on a mite bit
watery on shiny slick figures... so maybe not deposit so evenly.
So, my recommendation is Armoury primers.
TomB
> Am I the *only* one who uses Grey? I find white lightens up overlaid
> the paint pot (or
I find that grey primer makes colours more "muddy" and dull. I almost
exclusively prime with black (using Armory too). Have tried working with white
several times, and don't like it at all, unless I'm painting the
figure almost exclusively with bright colours (yellow, orange, etc) -
which for me doesn't usually happen.
I use mostly gray lately, too. Though I use white and black as well. It varies
mostly by scale (15mm mostly black, 28mm and up usually white or gray). I've
used Armory, GW, and Floquil. All seem to have their bad cans or bad lots.
Lately I have been using Rustoleum car primer. Not as dead flat as I am used
to, but not as slick as some I have used. Constistent can to can, easy
availability, reasonable cost. I'm satisfied.
Regards, Martin
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major effort I use grey. For a quick and dark paint job I use black and avoid
filling in every crevice with a brush.
Roger
> On 3/3/06, Thomas Barclay <kaladorn@magma.ca> wrote:
On 3/3/06, gzg-l-request@lists.csua.berkeley.edu
> <gzg-l-request@lists.csua.berkeley.edu> wrote:
> I use Armoury Grey primer. I found their black too gritty for my
I used to use Amoury primer, but I primed a set of Traveller 15mm minis (some
150 of them) with a bad batch of primer and then had to strip the primer off
them. I threw out that can and never went back.
> Am I the *only* one who uses Grey?
Oh, heck no! I use it all the time.
Black is popular with certain painting styles, as you can leave the creases
totally black and paint the highlights only. I have some 15mm ACW figures that
I purchased that were done this way. They look okay, but it's not my preferred
method.
> I find white lightens up overlaid colours and black
Yep, that's what I found.
I have some cultists (in cultists robes) waiting to be painted. I primed them
black. I have some Mexican War Americans to paint (for an
alt-history universe a friend of mine created for a novel) that are
primed grey. Grey is essentially neutral.
I hardly ever use white primer, unless the item I'm painting is going to be
very lightly coloured.
Note that the type of paint you use will be influenced by the primer. Since
it's hard to get the expensive Vallejo paints around here, I use the cheap
"hobby store" bottles almost exclusively. On sale, I can get some for as low
as US$0.49 a bottle. I think the more expensive paints, with different
pigments, will work better with darker primer. I know that some vehicles I
painted using Tamiya paint looked fine over top of black primer.
> Automotive primers I find tend to be too slick for my taste, though
As I said, the Canadian Tire sandable (that's the important part) automotive
primer stuck to the miniatures very well, but gave a very good surface on
which to lay acrylics.
> Thomas Barclay wrote:
> I found Tester's primers too slippery. Not interested in trying to sand
> Am I the *only* one who uses Grey? I find white lightens up overlaid
I like the Krylon Sandable Primer in Grey. I agree with you on the black
vs. white issue. Grey is the best of both worlds for figures. I'm still
undecided with vehicles between grey and black. I think it might depend on
your painting method.
I'll jump in now:)
Either White of Grey, depending on what color is on sale. Generally I prime in
the base uniform color (OD, Feldgrau, tan). I use grey for Armies that have a
lot of grey in their uniforms (Prussians) and white for those with more white
(French, Austrian, and Spanish).
I have found that Discount Brand spray paint works as well as expensive
primer.
Mike (Just finished 600 15mm 1809 French Infantry)
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As a default, I use black. Because black is forgiving of mistakes, and it
allows me to give a quick light-grey drybrushing to highlight all of the
details for my incresingly aged eyes.
White, I use for things that I know are going to be either entirely bright
colors, or actually white.
But when I'm able, I like to cheat.
For units, I like to use a primer that's close to the final color of the
miniatures. My first Ogre army, for example, was primed in flat red because
the final paint scheme was black on red. Those 25mm Partha figures that
I'll probably never finish painting? Primed in Model Master's "Olive Green",
becuase that's the main color I was going to use on them.
It's a handy shortcut. Heck, add in the so-called "Magic Wash"
technique, and half of your painting is done for you....
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> It's a handy shortcut. Heck, add in the so-called "Magic Wash"
technique,
> and half of your painting is done for you....
What's the "magic wash" technique?
Not a painter, but basically a clear acrylic, Futura floor polish is often
used, mixed with a bit of paint, slopped over a basic painted fig, and maybe
lightly wiped with a rag; the shading CAN be amazing. Depends on the basic
paint scheme and 'shadow' paint used.
A variation I've been seeing lately is using furniture varnish. Seems more
apropos for historicals... *shrug*
The_Beast
Paul wrote on 03/08/2006 07:46:27 AM:
> gzg-l-bounces@lists.csua.berkeley.edu wrote on 04/03/2006 16:31:58:
Oh, yeah, I think it's also referred to as 'dip-and-flick', if you dip
the model in, then 'flick' the excess paint off, instead of using a brush and
rag. Sounds terribly wasteful, no? Course, when you can buy acrylic floor
polish by the gallon, and use really cheap paint...
The_Beast