[GZG] (OT?) X-Treme Hobby...

11 posts ยท Jun 21 2006 to Jun 23 2006

From: Inire <inire@y...>

Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 13:51:46 -0700 (PDT)

Subject: [GZG] (OT?) X-Treme Hobby...

anyone wanna pick up a game company?

http://coldnavy.xtreme-hobby.com/

Jeff "My dice hate me!" Fearnow

"Just keep sayin' things I don't understand until I get it. That's the
teachin' way!" -Ryan, www.scarygoround.com

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From: John K Lerchey <lerchey@a...>

Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 16:54:52 -0400 (EDT)

Subject: Re: [GZG] (OT?) X-Treme Hobby...

For what it's worth, I contacted them and started a discussion. I asked

for some very specific details - existing inventory, sales records,
contracts/relationships with vendors (for packaging, casting, making
masters, etc.) and a bit more.

Haven't heard back.

John

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Office Carnegie Mellon University

> On Wed, 21 Jun 2006, Inire wrote:

> anyone wanna pick up a game company?

From: Doug Evans <devans@n...>

Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 17:26:41 -0500

Subject: Re: [GZG] (OT?) X-Treme Hobby...

Thanks, John. Do keep us appraised of further developements, though I wouldn't
be surprised if one of our favorite Euro manufacturers wasn't
already in talks. ;->= (No specially knowledge, but I assume 'no
details' means SOMEBODY with experience is chatting.)

For what it's worth, tell 'em it'll save the rest of us rattling their cage to
deal with you.

I just picked up a couple of fleet boxes on eBay for none-to-dear, but
have to admit neither was, in my taste, the most interesting of the line.

The_Beast

John L. wrote on 06/21/2006 03:54:52 PM:

> For what it's worth, I contacted them and started a discussion. I

From: Jaime Tiampo <fugu@s...>

Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 18:45:04 -0700 (PDT)

Subject: Re: [GZG] (OT?) X-Treme Hobby...

> Thanks, John. Do keep us appraised of further developements, though I

Damn. Good thing I bought a couple of fleet boxes last year. Might have to
pick up a few more before the end. I have a bunch of Kharadorn and have to say
I'm pretty happy with the sculpts. They've replaced my B5 stuff as my
favourate sculpts.

From: Ground Zero Games <jon@g...>

Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 16:47:07 +0100

Subject: Re: [GZG] (OT?) X-Treme Hobby...

> For what it's worth, I contacted them and started a discussion. I

I did make enquiries myself as soon as this was first posted on TMP a few
weeks back, just to see what kind of money was being talked about; I got a
very quick response, but the sort of figures being
discussed (which I'm not going to talk about on-list for obvious
reasons) didn't make it look economically attractive or viable to me
- basically it seemed a lot of money for little more than rights to
the designs and the masters; if the deal had included production moulds and
such it might have looked more feasible, but all these appear to be held by a
third party contract caster and thus are not included in the sale. After
careful consideration, I decided to pass.

Jon (GZG)

> On Wed, 21 Jun 2006, Inire wrote:

From: Doug Evans <devans@n...>

Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 10:56:05 -0500

Subject: Re: [GZG] (OT?) X-Treme Hobby...

Probably would have to agree with you; I obviously read more into the
announcement than was there.

Thanks for sharing that much.

Do hope it works for someone; at least, I will until I have a look at my new
fleets. Darn sweet in pictures.

The_Beast

Jon wrote on 06/22/2006 10:47:07 AM:

***snippage***

> - basically it seemed a lot of money for little more than rights to

From: Tony Francis <tony.francis@k...>

Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 17:57:02 +0100

Subject: Re: [GZG] (OT?) X-Treme Hobby...

> Ground Zero Games wrote:

> For what it's worth, I contacted them and started a discussion. I

> I got a very quick response, but the sort of figures being discussed

> make it look economically attractive or viable to me - basically it

We came to a similar conclusion - our other major worry was adding to
the line. To get any new models to match with existing ones would really

require them to be designed in the same way, which means investing in and
learning how to use 3D CAD tools and that's another major expense.

From: Evyn MacDude <infojunky@c...>

Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 12:03:43 -0700

Subject: Re: [GZG] (OT?) X-Treme Hobby...

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> On Jun 22, 2006, at 9:57 AM, Tony Francis wrote:

> We came to a similar conclusion - our other major worry was adding

Or throwing money at John Bear Ross....

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From: Tony Francis <tony.francis@k...>

Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 20:28:47 +0100

Subject: Re: [GZG] (OT?) X-Treme Hobby...

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> On Jun 22, 2006, at 9:57 AM, Tony Francis wrote:

> the line. To get any new models to match with existing ones would

From: Evyn MacDude <infojunky@c...>

Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 13:41:41 -0700

Subject: Re: [GZG] (OT?) X-Treme Hobby...

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> On Jun 22, 2006, at 12:28 PM, Tony Francis wrote:

> Which is probably even more expensive ;-)

Yep, and I want him to finish his current project, 15mm Vehicles including
some civilian ones....

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From: Frits Kuijlman <frits@k...>

Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 09:12:55 +0200

Subject: Re: [GZG] (OT?) X-Treme Hobby...

> Ground Zero Games wrote:
...
> the designs and the masters; if the deal had included production

This probably was to be expected. Your time with styrene and his time with a
CAD program being equal he would still want to recoup some of the 3d printing
costs. Add to that the design work by John Bear Ross and costs will start to
add up. The above remark about productions moulds makes things even more
unappetising. You would want ironclad garantees that these production moulds
will be destroyed when you buy the rights.

All in all, sigh:-)