As someone already of the opinion that anyone who uses slot headed screws
should be flogged the Robertson screw sounds fantastic. I believe I read
something years ago about a triangular headed screw but now it just sounds
like a knockoff of the Robertson.
I was taught metric and generally use it but for terrain making I use mostly
imperial, the standard base is 25mm or 1 inch and when doing things like
windows and doors it is a lot easier to use inches because they have halves
and quarters already marked on the rulers (lovely neat satin finished Fisher
stainless steel rulers). Mind you I tend to use metric for vertical
measurements as I started building terrain to match that for Necromunda and
the floor interval there is 70mm. On the whole I use both promiscuously, using
whichever one is most convenient for the immediate job. For larger things that
you cannot measure in inches then I will use metric almost exclusively. It is
a bit inconvenient being left handed though, the rules go the wrong way.
There used to be an old imperial paper size called an Elephant. I do like the
A system though, it is very clever, if I know that A4 is 297 by 210 mm then I
can work out al the others as I need them. Does the American system work in
the same way?
To explain for our American cousins the standard European and possibly
worldwide page size is graded from A0 down to A5 or so. A4 is slightly taller
and narrower than Letter sized paper. A3 is twice as big, the short side is
the same length as the long side of A4 and the long one twice the short side
of A4 so if you fold it I half you get the A4 size. I just think this is
terribly, terribly clever, which might be a bit sad but I suspect a lot of us
on this list think in the same way.
IIRC American paper sizes are:
A: 8 1/2 x 11 (Letter)
B: 11 x 17 (Tabloid or Ledger) C: 17 x 22 D: 22 x 34 E: 34 x 44
(Notice the pattern?) there is also Legal (8 1/2 x 14)
Mike
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Either Mr. Blair or Mr. Robert Blair wrote on 02/03/2006 09:08:10 AM:
> As someone already of the opinion that anyone who uses
I know that many toys have a triangular head-slot screw that seems to
not work well if you're trying to remove, as if a 'safety feature'. Has made
conversion-to-adult-gaming-toy difficult on occasion.
> I was taught metric and generally use it but for
As others have mentioned, this also goes in the US, mainly due to Japanese
cars, but I've also pointed out there's plenty leakage from other sources. 4"
<> 10cm (sorry, should be a tilde over an equal sign) comes in VERY handy
here.
And, don't forget, two liter bottles are very common; haven't become two litre
yet, though.
> There used to be an old imperial paper size called an
Not really, though there are half sheets that are available.
> To explain for our American cousins the standard
I've read the reasons for using A-B-etc system, and if I were into
publishing and paper manufacturing, I'd care a lot, but as I am not, I
don't. ;->=
Now that I've figured out how to adjust margins on printing PDF's, it's less a
problem than it used to be when trying to print things like the FT books. Have
we thanked Jon lately for that?
The_Beast
I'll hush up now.
The_Beast
Mr. Brown wrote on 02/03/2006 09:35:28 AM:
> IIRC American paper sizes are:
OK, That's what I get for taking years of Drafting and Graphic Arts in High
School.
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> On Feb 3, 2006, at 7:08 AM, Michael Robert Blair wrote:
> There used to be an old imperial paper size called an
No, and it is a pain having differing standards too.
A couple of the Journals that I write commentary for require all submissions
either formated or printed on A4. Meaning I have to keep a couple of reams of
it handy at all times.
Evyn infojunky@ceecom.net
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head aches thinking of all those strange conversions.
> Doug Evans <devans@nebraska.edu> wrote:
Either Mr. Blair or Mr. Robert Blair wrote on 02/03/2006 09:08:10 AM:
> As someone already of the opinion that anyone who uses
I know that many toys have a triangular head-slot screw that seems to
not work well if you're trying to remove, as if a 'safety feature'. Has made
conversion-to-adult-gaming-toy difficult on occasion.
> I was taught metric and generally use it but for
As others have mentioned, this also goes in the US, mainly due to Japanese
cars, but I've also pointed out there's plenty leakage from other sources. 4"
<> 10cm (sorry, should be a tilde over an equal sign) comes in VERY handy
here.
And, don't forget, two liter bottles are very common; haven't become two litre
yet, though.
> There used to be an old imperial paper size called an
Not really, though there are half sheets that are available.
> To explain for our American cousins the standard
I've read the reasons for using A-B-etc system, and if I were into
publishing and paper manufacturing, I'd care a lot, but as I am not, I
don't. ;->=
Now that I've figured out how to adjust margins on printing PDF's, it's less a
problem than it used to be when trying to print things like the FT books. Have
we thanked Jon lately for that?
The_Beast
> Ow , that causes head aches thinking of all those strange
Try dealing with a customer whose giving you measurements as "yea high" and
"about this long"...and it's a phone conversation.
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Tanx.
> laserlight <laserlight@quixnet.net> wrote:
Try dealing with a customer whose giving you measurements as "yea high" and
"about this long"...and it's a phone conversation.
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they ask for an A4 size envelope...
The UK system mentioned above uses "A" values for paper and "C" values for
envelopes, the envelopes being slightly larger than the equivilant sheets of
paper...
Of course there is then the ye olde foolscap size, and those who want sheets
of A4 equivilent but the american version (shorter but wider than standard UK
A4).
Sorry, work in a stationers, I'll stop myself before I start going on about
the merits of various pen company products...other than that US manufactored
pens are SOOOOOOOO much better than their European or Japanese competition...
Sad, an't I!
Cheers,
Matt Tope.
> On 03/02/06, laserlight <laserlight@quixnet.net> wrote:
You don't by any chance have a boss named David, do you? ;-)
> On 4-Feb-06, at 12:52 PM, Matthew Tope wrote:
> Or in person when they ask for an A4 size envelope...
> for envelopes, the envelopes being slightly larger than the equivilant
> sheets of paper...
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GellyRolls by Sakura. I understand your condition.
> Tony Christney <tchristney@telus.net> wrote:
You don't by any chance have a boss named David, do you? ;-)
> On 4-Feb-06, at 12:52 PM, Matthew Tope wrote:
> Or in person when they ask for an A4 size envelope...
> for envelopes, the envelopes being slightly larger than the equivilant
> sheets of paper...
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http://lists.csua.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gzg-lI wouldn't worry
about it. I have 2 friends, one works in prinitng, the other in retail, and
they were once discussing the relative merits of 8 vs 13 line bar codes while
playing Battlefield 2.
CJ
Sorry, work in a stationers, I'll stop myself before I start going on about
the merits of various pen company products...other than that US manufactored
pens are SOOOOOOOO much better than their European or Japanese competition...
Sad, an't I!
Cheers,
Matt Tope.