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ctly what is a Bike Lock Key, in terms someone in the Maine, USA can fully
understand.
British nukes protected by bicycle lock
keyhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2007/11_novemb
er/15/newsnight.shtml
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Certainly there is no hunting like the hunting of man and those who have
hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never really care for anything else
thereafter.
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Canadian, but I assume it's like the lock and key for my bicycle. It's
similar, physically, to the locks on many vending machines. A
cylinder or tube is cut across the circular cross-section, and the
cross-section has teeth carved into it, with one tooth prominent.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tubular_pin_tumbler_lock
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Exactly what is a Bike Lock Key, in terms someone in the Maine, USA can fully
understand.
British nukes protected by bicycle lock key
http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2007/11_november/
15/newsnight.shtml
DOC Agren Lurker on the Digest
In Memory of Russ Manduca 7/22/67-1/8/08
Certainly there is no hunting like the hunting of man and those who have
hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never really care for anything else
thereafter. ~ Ernest Hemmingway
"I'm a Member of Red Sox Nation"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abc3CevHgms
> On Tuesday 13 January 2009 17:08:31 Doc wrote:
I assume:
http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&safe=off&q=bike+lock+key&btnG=Sear
ch+Images
http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&safe=off&q=bicycle+lock&btnG=Searc
h+Images
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Yes, I'd agree with Tom's assessment - the point the article is
making, I think, is that the arming mechanism relied on a very simple
and not-terribly-secure lock, without even a double-key system, which
implied that we were pretty confident that no British officer was
going to go all Doctor Strangelove on us.... ;-)
I assume the reference to a "bicycle lock" is simply to describe in
layman's terms the type of cylinder key that was used in the system -
as Tom says, it's used in a lot of industrial equipment like vending
machines, and also in car anti-theft devices (I've got one on my
keyring for the Krooklock in the van).
Jon (GZG)
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tubular_pin_tumbler_lock
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abc3CevHgms
> A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above.
> On Tuesday 13 January 2009 17:08:31 Doc wrote:
I presumed that the kind of lock they meant was as shown here:
http://shopamigos.com/images/lockjaw_2000.jpg
Nothing to do with the actual bike security device itself, but just a
reference to the type of cylinder key lock as shown at the bottom left of the
device in the pic.
Jon (GZG)
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nks Guys,
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??? I was hoping it was something else...? and that the Brits had it as a word
for something else.? I used to work in a Video arcade and had at work homemade
made master key that would open most locks on the Video games.? I guess I
could have armed UK nukes at the same time too..
> On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 06:50:05PM +0000, Ground Zero Games wrote:
> Yes, I'd agree with Tom's assessment - the point the article is
Also so that we could set them off without first getting the Americans'
permission, which is what a PAL system would in practice have involved.
(There is a recurring rumour that our Vanguard-class boomer captains are
commanded to launch on their preset targets if The Archers is not
broadcast on schedule for two days in a row. Non-British people, see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Archers .)
R
> On Tue, 13 Jan 2009, Doc wrote:
> I was hoping it was something else...? and that the Brits had it as a
You mean a bic (ballpoint) pen?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kryptonite_lock#Vulnerability
I was one of the people who didn't find out about the vulnerability until the
2004. I was so peeved I could have chewed through a Kryptonite lock.
I'm not surprised you were peeved. Sadly, I notice that Kryptonite's
web-site (http://www.kryptonitelock.com/OurStory/History.aspx)
*still* makes the claim that:
"During the fall of 2004, it was discovered that the industry-
standard tubular cylinder, used in most brands of portable security products,
could be compromised, at times, with a household item."
when the vulnerability was in fact first made public in a UK cycling magazine
in 1992, and presumably "discovered" well before that. Kryptonite's management
has always maintained that *their company* did not *become aware* of the
problem until 2004, but that's not quite the same thing.
Corporate spin leaves a nasty taste in my mouth, but all one can do is refrain
from buying their stuff.