i'm going to be in London at the end of the month and thought 'hey! being
close to the source, there oughta be a shop that stocks GZG stuff!'
am I right? if so, which 'un?
thanks in advance!
-j
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> On Thursday 09 February 2006 18:45, Inire wrote:
You're assuming that there's any decent gaming shops in London...
> am I right? if so, which 'un?
The Orc's Nest[1] used to stock some FT stuff. This is pretty close to Oxford
Street etc.
Leisure Games[2] may do. They had some B5 Wars models the last and only time I
was there. They're quite a way out of central London.
[1] http://www.orcsnest.com
[2] http://www.leisuregames.com
> --- Samuel Penn <sam@glendale.org.uk> wrote:
> On Thursday 09 February 2006 18:45, Inire wrote:
yeah, I made that assumption. ;-) not so much, huh?
Will check out orcsnest (already found them so its
good to have the x-reffed). Dunno my overall transport
situation so we'll see about LG.
Jeff "My dice hate me!" Fearnow Gaming to keep War out of RealTime!
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> On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 11:07:29AM -0800, Inire wrote:
> Will check out orcsnest (already found them so its
That's about it for wargaming supplies. If you want role-playing or
hobby-type games there's also Playin' Games in Museum Street (a short
walk from Orcs' Nest).
Jeff wrote on 02/09/2006 01:07:29 PM:
> --- Samuel Penn <sam@glendale.org.uk> wrote:
***snip***
> > You're assuming that there's any decent gaming shops
***snip***
I believe Jon has mentioned in the past, and I've seen some confirmation in
Brit gaming mag's that, outside of 'the big boys', gaming retail in the UK is
dominated by mail order and show stalls.
My impression is that even wares from folks like the Evil Empire(tm) are
pretty much to be found only in their own shops. Do book shops do 'family
games'?
Haven't been there, merely gasping grasps from afar.
Course, just helps to explain Jon's mail order being so good, and that
service is so good, no matter where one lives. ;->=
The_Beast
> On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 01:23:21PM -0600, Doug Evans wrote:
The big boy in question being basically Games Workshop, yeah. That's
_wargames_ specifically, though.
> My impression is that even wares from folks like the Evil Empire(tm)
are
> pretty much to be found only in their own shops. Do book shops do
Some have a basic selection. In London, the choices are basically:
Orcs' Nest (lots of metal mostly fantasy, some RPGs, some wargames) Playin'
Games (family games and RPGs, limited wargames) Leisure Games (mostly family
games and RPGs, limited wargames)
plus wherever Games Workshop live, but you'd only go there for Games Workshop
products because they don't sell anything else.
> Inire wrote:
> i'm going to be in London at the end of the month and
Your best bet is to arrange with Jon to have some goodies delivered to your
hotel.
Thanks for the confirmation! Hasbro has become the 300LB gorilla on this side,
but tends to sell in other shops. That said, even their mass market
'wargames', such as Risk in many varieties, can be found in toy stores, book
stores, mall kiosks, supermarket super stores...
> Some have a basic selection. In London, the choices are basically:
Ok, this can be REALLY confusing for outsiders...
Metro or London 'proper'?
Oh, and if it weren't for some card games like Yu-Gi-Oh, *shudder*, our
shop would feel like an Evil Empire(tm) outpost. I'd be ungrateful if I didn't
give credit that it keeps the wolves from the door, for the most part, but I
hate things that don't interest me dominating the market. C'est la vie!
The_Beast
> On Thu, 9 Feb 2006, Frits Kuijlman wrote:
> Inire wrote:
Delivery and dinner with St. Jon? Wow, now *that* would be cool.
"Forgive father for I have punned..."
Envious,
> --- Mike Stanczyk <stanczyk@pcisys.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 9 Feb 2006, Frits Kuijlman wrote:
sheepishly, of course...
Jeff "My dice hate me!" Fearnow Gaming to keep War out of RealTime!
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> On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 02:08:59PM -0600, Doug Evans wrote:
> Ok, this can be REALLY confusing for outsiders...
Huh?
You can get to Leisure Games on the Underground system, if that's what you're
asking...
R
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Northern Line (the black one on the Tube map, IIRC) from Kings Cross to
Finchley, isn't it? Been a while since I've been in those parts, but I've been
meaning to visit LG for some time now myself.
Roger Burton West <roger@firedrake.org> wrote: On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at
> 02:08:59PM -0600, Doug Evans wrote:
> Ok, this can be REALLY confusing for outsiders...
Huh?
You can get to Leisure Games on the Underground system, if that's what you're
asking...
R
> Roger Burton West wrote:
Technically, London is the smallest city in England(*), covering the area
inside the medieval city bars and run by the medieval chartered corporation,
electing officials from the old craft guilds. The surrounding boroughs all
expanded out into a vast conurbation grouped together as Metropolitan London.
Ken Livingstone is mayor of the latter, while I am surprised to find that I am
the Lord Mayor of the former.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_of_London
The Orc's Nest looks to be in the neighbouring City of Westminster, vaguely
between Oxford Street and Trafalgar Square.
> On Thursday 09 February 2006 18:45, Inire wrote:
I'm afraid that these days, virtually ALL our trade is mailorder and show
sales; Orc's Nest used to stock a selection from us, but they haven't
reordered for a couple of years now so anything they have
left will be rather old stock.... :-/
What actual dates are you in London? On the 26th Feb we are at a show in
Tunbridge Wells (well, actually in neighbouring Southborough, but
it's the Tunbridge club's show) - that is not far south of London and
might be reachable for you!
Just a heads-up on the idea suggested by someone that you have stuff
mailed to your hotel - yes, we can do that, BUT note that you don't
get the VAT subtracted if we do this, because we're not actually mailing the
goods out of the EU but to a UK address. So you save on the shipping, but
still have to pay the tax. Technically I believe you can try to reclaim it
from Customs when you leave the country, but I think it may be complicated and
probably not worth it for the small amount in question.
Have a good time over here!
Jon (GZG)
PS: of course, if you have the time you're always welcome to come up
and visit us at the workshop - we're about an hour and a half by car,
North-East of London, but it is possible to do the trip by train and
then bus if you don't mind the hassle of public transport!
> --
> On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 11:54:25PM +0000, Stephen Bond wrote:
from Kings Cross to Finchley, isn't it?
Finchley Central, then a few minutes' walk up to number 100. When I was
working for Demon Internet, whose headquarters is just the other side of the
station, I hardly ever visited them...
R
> On Fri, Feb 10, 2006 at 12:26:16AM +0000, David Brewer wrote:
> Technically, London is the smallest city in England(*), covering
Ah, I see what you mean. "Metro" would _never_ be used by an actual
Londoner as opposed to a politician; "London" means Greater London or just
everything inside the M25, whereas the City is just "the City" or sometimes
"the City of London", never "London" alone.
There is actually some gaming relevance: I've written up a very brief
introduction to London for role-players who want to set games there.
On Fri, February 10, 2006 9:15, Roger Burton West said:
> On Fri, Feb 10, 2006 at 12:26:16AM +0000, David Brewer wrote:
And a few hundred years before that, London Town and the City of Westminster
were seperated by a large stretch of open fields.
> There is actually some gaming relevance: I've written up a very brief
Totally off topic, but I've just finished reading the Baroque Cycle[1],
a large part of which is set in 17th/18th century London. It's very
interesting reading about how some of the places I used to walk through on the
way to work started off. Possibly ideal for anyone wanting to set a game in
the period.
[1] Neal Stephenson, fictional history about the start of the
Royal Society (and hence the birth of modern science). His long rambling
approach to telling a story might not be to everyone's taste however.
> Roger Burton West wrote:
I know, I'm trying to translate into American. There's one square
mile of "city proper" and 1,800-odd square miles of official
"metro area", so the utility of the distinction (if I've understood it
correctly) is small in this case. Maybe we should cast Greater London as
"city" and whatever BUAs fade into the green belt as "metro area". I'm not
sure exactly what would qualify as the end of metro area. Wikipedia suggests
vaguely that "London is frequently listed with 13 million inhabitants" while
claiming Greater London as 7.5 million. It's going to to be a whopping great
chunk of South East England.
I just though it was humorous that London was England's smallest city. The
same process that creates a swathe of conurbation around cities happened so
much earlier to London that the city fathers locked down the boundary of the
City to keep their oligarchical privileges forever, and the surrounding
metropolis has it's own mayor and metropolis.
> On 9-Feb-06, at 4:26 PM, David Brewer wrote:
Well, at least you get a nice, central flat:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mansion_House%2C_London
> --
Sorry, I meant nice council flat ;-)