We've got a LOT of new stuff - FT starships and 15mm Stargrunt
figures and vehicles* - coming out in a few weeks, but they are not
quite ready yet (we'll be putting out some pre-release teaser shots
as they come out of the master moulds). But, as pretty much everyone is
feeling the pinch right now, we wanted to do a special deal to tempt a few
more of you into ordering
some toys - so rather than wait till all the new releases are out,
we're making a similar offer to that which we regularly run at Christmas:
Anyone who orders between now and the end of the month (Thursday Sept 30th)
and spends over £25 will get not one but TWO special offers:
1) We'll put a bundle of EXTRA FREE STUFF in your order (to our
choice, but usually worth at least 20% of your order value - or even
more if we're feeling particularly generous - and it will be useful
stuff relevant to what you've actually ordered).
2) You'll get a DISCOUNT VOUCHER (with a unique code number so you can use it
online, by phone or by email) that can be redeemed during OCTOBER, when we
should have all the new stuff out! If you spend between £25 and £75 now
you'll get a 10% discount voucher, and if you spend OVER £75 then it'll be a
big 15% one!
So, if you buy what you need from our existing ranges now, then you can get a
generous discount off the new stuff when we release it all over the next few
weeks!
* What's coming out? Well, we've got Scandinavian Federation
starships PLUS the start of another new fleet as yet un-allocated to
a Nation (more on this later), and in 15mm we have more wheeled, hover and
grav vehicles, more heavy weapons and accessories, and some
SPACESUITED FIGURES - and that's just for starters!
All this and STILL NO PRICE INCREASES, though it's something we will be forced
to look at soon, so don't leave it too long!
Full details at the usual place, <www.gzg.com>.
All the best,
> On Tue, September 23, 2008 11:55, Ground Zero Games wrote:
Is there any new 25mm (or even 6mm) planned?
Are you going to be at Warfare this year? (which is nicely timed to miss out
on all these offers anyway, but I prefer to buy at a show if possible).
Any progress on the short flight stands? :-)
> Ground Zero Games wrote:
Ooo... starships on skis. Wish I could think of some Scandinavian-themed
SF to get an idea of what they may look like, but the closest I can think of
at the moment is that German series from the 60s with the "pointy bras", but
these are not, presumably, coming out in the GC range
<g>.
And who's left in the Tuffleyverse to get a fleet? The LLAR? The PAU?
The Romanovs? Indonesian Commonwealth? The Dutch? Int-er-est-ing...
Phil
> On Tue, September 23, 2008 11:55, Ground Zero Games wrote:
Sorry, nothing planned for 25mm right now, though a few more 6mm are possible
after we've done this batch of FT and 15mm.
We'll have to get you into 15mm, the One True Scale.... come on over,
we have cookies..... ;-)
> Are you going to be at Warfare this year? (which is nicely timed
Yes, we'll be at Warfare, and up at Leeds for FIASCO at the Armouries. The
reason we've timed the offer this way, of course, is so that we (hopefully)
get some improved cashflow now when we don't have to prepare for a show for a
few weeks.
> Any progress on the short flight stands? :-)
OK, OK, I'll do the frakking things..... ;-)
Best,
Jon (GZG)
> --
> On Tuesday 23 September 2008 18:16:16 Ground Zero Games wrote:
Well, if you promise to replace and paint all my 25mm SciFi and Fantasy armies
and terrain (including the DwarvenForge stuff I bought off you) with 15mm
equivalents for free, I'll happily
share in the cookies :-)
> >Are you going to be at Warfare this year? (which is nicely timed
Heh. I was hoping to buy some stuff from you at Colours, but I
didn't check to see when Colours was until Monday last week. :-(
Since I also missed Salute (due to lack of trains), I really need to try and
remember Warfare.
> >Any progress on the short flight stands? :-)
No rush :-) Though my ship painting (and hence thinking about
future purchasing) is on hold until I figure out the basing
issue...
> Ground Zero Games wrote:
Ah, but who says they are NECESSARILY going to be an Earth-based
power that we already know of...?
They may be another group of Extra-Solar colonies like the ORC.... or
something even stranger.... ;-)
Jon (GZG)
> Phil
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the Scanadinavian fleets only select crew on the basis of how blond their hair
is? Â Maybe they practice genetic engineering and cloning with bio engineered
super soldiers. Â Does the new fleet have to be human? Some more aliens or
parahumans could make for some more interesting background and alternate ship
design philosophies.
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From: Ground Zero Games <jon@gzg.com>
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Sent: Wednesday, 24 September, 2008 6:32:58 PM
Subject: Re: [GZG] [OFFICIAL] New stuff info and New Offer! :-)
> Ground Zero Games wrote:
Ah, but who says they are NECESSARILY going to be an Earth-based
power that we already know of...?
They may be another group of Extra-Solar colonies like the ORC.... or
something even stranger.... ;-)
Jon (GZG)
> Phil
Just as long as you put out the teaser pictures before this offer
expires:-)
> And who's left in the Tuffleyverse to get a fleet? The LLAR? The PAU?
> Ah, but who says they are NECESSARILY going to be an Earth-based
Frighteningly, I'm getting visions of an appropriate companion fleet for
the Phalons......
I really need to lay off the Mt Dew....
Don't forget corporate mercenary fleets. With all the infrastructure required
to have a colony in the outer reaches, it might make sense for a firm to
maintain its own forces.
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 8:02 AM, Hudak, Michael <mihudak@state.pa.us> wrote:
> And who's left in the Tuffleyverse to get a fleet? The LLAR? The PAU?
> Just as long as you put out the teaser pictures before this offer
Expect to see some in the next couple of days, Frits, as soon as we get some
of the first master castings assembled. Have you looked at the teaser pics of
the ships already up on TMP? Here:
http://theminiaturespage.com/news/638656/
Jon (GZG)
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Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 3:52 AM, John Tailby <john_tailby@xtra.co.nz>
wrote:
> Does the new fleet have to be human? Some more aliens or parahumans
I'm for a new alien race. Narns? Centaurie? Dilgar?? :-D
Mk
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> Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 6:55 AM, Ground Zero Games <jon@gzg.com> wrote:
> [...]
Hmmm. My GZG-ECC calendar says Sept 30th is a Tuesday...
;-)
Mk
From the OFFICIAL AvalonHill/WOTC/Hasbro site:
As you can see, this week all the battles are interlinked. The outcomes are
far from certain. This is the third turn of a four turn game â the stakes
have never been higher. As always, submit your After Action Reports to
AAR@wizards.com. Since the battles for this turn are crucial to the outcome of
the campaign we are extending the deadline to ***Tuesday September 29th 2008
at 8:00am PST.*** Battle Ticket art this week is compliments of US National
Archives.
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=ah/aam/ah20080915c
It's a game company thing...
Course, AH is still saying: Download you battle tickets here!
Now you know, all your base DOES belong to us.
The_Beast
Indy wrote on 09/24/2008 08:42:21 AM:
> On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 6:55 AM, Ground Zero Games <jon@gzg.com>
wrote:
> [...]
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Forces of Chaos!
F.P. Kiesche III "Ah Mr.Gibbon, another damned, fat, square book. Always,
scribble, scribble, scribble, eh?" (The Duke of Gloucester, on being presented
with Volume 2 of The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire.) Blogging at The
Lensman's Children and TexasBestGrok!
> --- On Wed, 9/24/08, Indy <indy.kochte@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Indy <indy.kochte@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [GZG] [OFFICIAL] New stuff info and New Offer! :-)
To: gzg-l@vermouth.csua.berkeley.edu
Date: Wednesday, September 24, 2008, 9:39 AM
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 3:52 AM, John Tailby <john_tailby@xtra.co.nz>
wrote:
Does the new fleet have to be human? Some more aliens or parahumans could make
for some more interesting background and alternate ship design philosophies.
I'm for a new alien race. Narns? Centaurie? Dilgar?? :-D
Mk
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 9:10 AM, Robert Mayberry
> <robert.mayberry@gmail.com> wrote:
I ran a q-ship campaign a number of years ago and it was a hoot.
Legalized piracy is always fun.;)
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> ak, Michael wrote:
;-)
> Frighteningly, I'm getting visions of an appropriate companion fleet
Not me. I've only just found a shop here that sells the stuff! First Dew
I've had for what -- 5 years? Blast the twits who took it off the mass
market.
Phil
> On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 6:55 AM, Ground Zero Games
Oh b*gger.... yes, of course you're right - serves me right for
typing it too quickly..... :-/
Jon (GZG)
> ;-)
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ld mega-corps really have a separate set of ship designs? Since they
build them...wouldn't they just adopt their own production line to the
occasional "private" vessel?
F.P. Kiesche III "Ah Mr.Gibbon, another damned, fat, square book. Always,
scribble, scribble, scribble, eh?" (The Duke of Gloucester, on being presented
with Volume 2 of The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire.) Blogging at The
Lensman's Children and TexasBestGrok!
> --- On Wed, 9/24/08, Damond Walker <damosan@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Damond Walker <damosan@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [GZG] [OFFICIAL] New stuff info and New Offer! :-)
To: gzg-l@vermouth.csua.berkeley.edu
Date: Wednesday, September 24, 2008, 1:16 PM
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 9:10 AM, Robert Mayberry
> <robert.mayberry@gmail.com> wrote:
I ran a q-ship campaign a number of years ago and it was a hoot.
Legalized piracy is always fun.;)
> F.P.Kiesche III wrote:
> Would mega-corps really have a separate set of ship designs? Since they
> build them...wouldn't they just adopt their own production line to the
What ships do you think they use for PR purposes, to show off all those new
gadgets the want to sell to their military customers...? :-)
> Phillip Atcliffe wrote:
;-)
> Frighteningly, I'm getting visions of an appropriate companion fleet
Wow, that is a neighborhood I need to avoid.
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 10:06 PM, Fred Kiesche
> <recursive_loop@yahoo.com> wrote:
Perhaps they do and perhaps they don't. How do the governments in the
GZG-verse view the idea of mega-corps building their own combatant
fleet (ignoring, for a minute the Kra'vak incursion/invasion/campaign
of cleansing)?
They might build ships designed for different requirements. For example, lower
operating costs would suggest ships with smaller crews, fewer consumables and
larger operating areas (via longer range and
higher thrust ratings). For example, a FSE-aligned company might build
designs without the salvo missiles.
Similarly, the equivalent of an East India company might build
state-supported colony fleets, consisting of a few pre-fab colony
ships, a couple couriers, a scout and some military ships. The colony ships
would be designed to be disassembled for use in building the colony. The scout
and couriers would stick around for the colonists to
use. The combat ships would be low-tech, low-maintenance, multi-role
garrison designs. Maybe throw in an industrial ship to kick start the
space-based economy.
Actually the more I think of it, the more likely that the fragmented
tuffleyverse would have semi-independent corporations operating in
deep space with their own fleets and quite possibly their own designs. The
great powers have been locked in wars for decades; there are lots of
independent, minor and piratical powers crawling around. Even in the best of
times, help is weeks away by courier, if it comes at all.
Flexible manufacturing is in its early stages in our own time, but it's
already having a profound effect on business strategy.
A smart corp probably has major ship-building facilities in the core
systems that it uses for government contracting. But they're likely to have
small facilities in the outer systems also, just because if you're going to
have a colony you might as well have a couple mining ships and some kind of
industrial ship to maintain the ships you can't have a colony without. And
since you've got the infrastructure anyway, you might as well build ships in
your spare time. Not state of the art, perhaps, and not very fast, but I mean
why not? Keep in mind that if Lockheed's private fleet included any Excalibur
class ships, they'd have long since been appropriate to fight in one of the
Solar Wars (or the xeno war). So there's another reason to have different
designs
built in facilities ill-suited for line-of-battle ships and which are
themselves not really worth alienating your contractors to confiscate.
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 2:41 PM, Oerjan Ariander
> <orjan.ariander1@comhem.se> wrote:
So are we looking more at a privateer model during the age of sail. Basically
the major powers have armadas prowling around, but they cannot really move
them around too much because they have to keep the concentrated power of their
fleet as a mailed fist. Instead, they
protect their interests in the far-flung deep space through small
fleets operating mostly independently and strike at their neighbors through
the use of privateers and "pirates."
Chip
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On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 4:25 PM, Robert Mayberry
> <robert.mayberry@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Sep 2008, Oerjan Ariander wrote:
> What ships do you think they use for PR purposes, to show off all
The required blue screen of death humor:
"No Admiral, this ship is completely out of beta." Steve Balmer the fourth,
shortly before the bridge depressurazation on
the MSFT Vista, a Gates-3 class destroyer.
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> ojunky wrote:
Not neighbourhood -- /country!/ Mountain Dew was (finally) released in
the UK in the mid-90s, but vanished completely a couple of years later.
I was just lucky in that the place I worked at the time had just received what
must have been a large shipment of cans of the stuff just prior to its sudden
disappearance, so I was able to get it from vending machines and the
occasional local shop that I found to still have some for something like a
year afterwards. But I haven't seen it since, until
I wancdered into, of all things, an Asian supermarket in the local
Chinatown, and there it was! Now I conduct semi-regular raids to buy as
much as I can easily carry away. It's a pain to have to rely on public
transport; if I had a car readily available here, I could get so much more. If
I could afford it, of course; since, as far as I can work out, Dew is imported
rather than made here, it's not cheap.
Phil, planning a raid for the weekend... 8-)
I discovered to my horror that Mt Dew is caffeine free in Australia. I mean,
what's the point?
Is that true elsewhere or just there?
On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 3:06 AM, Phillip Atcliffe
> <atcliffe@ntlworld.com> wrote:
Now I
> conduct semi-regular raids to buy as much as I can easily carry away.
It's a
> pain to have to rely on public transport; if I had a car readily
since, as
> far as I can work out, Dew is imported rather than made here, it's not