NOW AVAILABLE!
In addition to our major November release of new NAC ships, we're
very pleased to announce yet MORE new FT starships - this time of a
rather different force.....
The Ravagers - Rim Pirates!
Savage bands of marauding outcasts operating from barely-habitable
planets outside even far-flung limited settlements of the Outrim
Worlds. Run by a confusing and ever-fighting selection of feudal
warlords, they exhibit no kind of government structure beyond who has
the biggest gun at the time. With barely-spaceworthy ships cobbled
together from old hulls refitted with scavenged weapons and drives, the
Ravagers are the scourge of small outrim settlements and unescorted merchant
shipping...
Pirate Cruiser: the size of a typical naval Heavy Cruiser, the Pirate Cruiser
is usually the command ship of a raiding force. The Cruiser class generally
has a moderate armament suite, plus considerable spare cargo space for loot
and captives, and is equipped with powerful (if not terribly reliable) drives
in order to catch targets and evade defenders.
Pirate Raider: typically the size of a small Destroyer, the Raider class of
Pirate ship is most frequently used on solo missions to pick off isolated
civilian shipping or attack small planetary settlements, but is also
encountered in groups (often accompanied by a Cruiser or
two) for dealing with larger and better-defended targets.
Pirate Attacker: a small, fast attack ship the size of a military strikeboat,
normally used to "swarm" a target and disable it, or to take on escorting
ships. Attackers almost always work in conjunction with Raiders and Cruisers,
as the tiny Attacker boats don't have much
spare space for hauling away their ill-gotten gains.
Rim Pirate forces don't plan on taking on naval units except small convoy
escort craft if they can help it, so they generally don't have particularly
heavy armament suites, but they do carry specialised
weaponry designed to incapacitate ships and/or their crews without
actually destroying them. Needle Beams (to pick off individual systems on a
target ship) and EMP weapons (to cause system failures without damaging the
hull or cargo) are both common on Pirate vessels, along with a selection of
more conventional beam and missile
weapons for when a stand-up fight is inevitable.
It is not known for certain where the Rim Pirate Warlords acquire their ships
from, but the fact that many of the ships encountered bear strong resemblance
to each other (albeit with many minor
differences in fitting-out and details) tends to suggest that there
is at least one shipyard facility still operating somewhere on the Rim which
is producing basic hulls to simple, outdated designs and selling them to the
warlords, who then fit them out with whatever they have available in the way
of scavenged and captured weapons, drives and systems. Many of these systems,
especially drives and
power cores, often appear to be dangerously unstable - but as drive
room crews are mostly slaves and pressganged captives, this seems of
little concern to the Warlords - and there is always another ship and
crew to replace those that blow up!
FT X01 Ravager (Rim Pirate) Attackers - pack of 3 1.50 GBP
FT X02 Ravager (Rim Pirate) Raiders - pack of 2 2.50 GBP
FT X03 Ravager (Rim Pirate) Cruiser 3.50 GBP
FTX PACK 1: PIRATE MINI-FLEET
2 x FTX-03 Cruisers, 4 x FTX-02 Raiders, 6 x FTX-01 Attackers -
value15.00 GBP; SPECIAL PACK PRICE JUST 12.00 GBP!
ALL OUT NOW!
Check our online store to order (www.gzg.com) and press releases on TMP and
SCN!
> Ground Zero Games wrote:
...
> FT X01 Ravager (Rim Pirate) Attackers - pack of 3 1.50 GBP
Considering the price I assume that the numbers in the deal are ship amounts,
not pack amounts.
F.
> On 11/15/05, Ground Zero Games <jon@gzg.com> wrote:
Oooooo...... me want pictures!
Ohhhhh they look nice. What you don't have any pictures?;) honest I will get
them on the store site tonight with pictures.
Paul
[quoted original message omitted]
> On 11/15/05, Paul Owen <paul@gtnetworks.co.uk> wrote:
You're a sad, sad little man.
;) honest I will
> get them on the store site tonight with pictures.
I take back everything bad I just said.
> Ohhhhh they look nice. What you don't have any pictures? ;)
Tease.
> Ohhhhh they look nice. What you don't have any pictures? ;)
:-) Well they do look good. The style reminds me of the Green Ship
from Babylon 5 and some of the Kaylon fleet of starship minis from Kallistra.
Jon sends these pics to me at 3AM my time so I get to see them when I get to
work later that morning, but I don't have a chance to update SCN with the pics
until I get home many hours later.
Jon did send the pics and the press release to TheMiniaturesPage.com, but like
the last few releases, they haven't posted anyting there.
> Ground Zero Games wrote:
Yes - for the deals, we always list number of individual ships, not
number of packs. Effectively, you get 2 Cruisers, 2 packs of Raiders
and 2 packs of Attackers - hence the retail value of 15.00 GBP.
Jon (GZG)
> F.
> On 11/15/05, Ground Zero Games <jon@gzg.com> wrote:
Already taken and sent to Paul (for the GZG store), SCN and TMP.....
just waiting to see who gets them up first (oo-er...)!!
;-)
Out of interest, I think these are probably the fastest
concept-to-production minis we've ever done - I decided I wanted to
do them on Sunday morning, sculpted them during the day, made the master mould
first thing Monday morning, took the piccies from the
first-off master castings, then made the production mould that
afternoon and had saleable castings half an hour later... less than 36 hours
from idea to production!
The Ravagers sound like the Reavers from Serenity just the thing to go with
the Glow worm transport?
> On 11/15/05, John Tailby <john_tailby@xtra.co.nz> wrote:
Good to know I wasn't the only one thinking that.
Now to stat up the ships.
Time to hit the weapon archive again for balanced EMP weapons...
Needle beams, EMP weapons and ramming speed!
Brendan 'Neath Southern Skies
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> Time to hit the weapon archive again for balanced EMP weapons...
ORC EMP weapons and boarding parties
Good to know I wasn't the only one thinking that.
Brian,
Your not alone on more than one count here......) I saw the name and started
hearing a western
guitar solo.....)
> >> Ohhhhh they look nice. What you don't have any pictures? ;)
I got home and the pictures are now up:
http://www.star-ranger.com/FullThrust.htm
> -----Original Message-----
Yup, I can definitely name the last movie Jon saw.
> Ground Zero Games wrote:
> them on Sunday morning, sculpted them during the day, made the master
> saleable castings half an hour later... less than 36 hours from idea
So have you any ideas like for the new NSL:)
Well someone HAD to ask eh;)
> > -----Original Message-----
What....Tim Burton's Corpse Bride....???
Don't recall any spaceships in it....
;-)
> Ground Zero Games wrote:
Next fleet up for the "new style" treatment will probably be the FSE, and THEN
the NSL, but if I feel like it there may be a few NSL
classes done in between the FSE releases..... watch this space! ;-)
Jon (GZG)
> Well someone HAD to ask eh ;)
> Ground Zero Games wrote:
> done in between the FSE releases..... watch this space! ;-)
Ohhhh... trust me... I am watching..... ;-)
It would be a shame for those Lutzows to be all alone in the world
hehe....
> Brian B wrote:
Just saw them. Them be pirate ships alright. Arr!
> On 11/15/05, Ground Zero Games <jon@gzg.com> wrote:
Oh, goody. Esthetically speaking, they're my favorites. Does anyone else
notice a similarity between the current NSL designs and certain B5 EA ships?
Yes, I have thought there was a passing similarity (and in addition, a model
of Red Dwarf I have bears a very good similarity to the Von Tegetthoff class
SDN!)
[quoted original message omitted]
> On Tuesday 15 November 2005 08:51, Ground Zero Games wrote:
I bought some yesterday at Warfare, and I've done a bit of painting and some
designs today (as with all my new FT stuff, requires SVG).
http://www.glendale.org.uk/ft/raiders/ravagers.html
Haven't tried them in a game yet though.
ooh, cool, SVG.:)
I've used SVG for a couple of game things. I've got most of a Geo-Hex
3D layout design system (one C, one Java), and one of the outputs is in SVG. I
was thinking recently of using the SVG textpath to print ship names in a
circle.
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> On Tuesday 15 November 2005 08:51, Ground Zero Games wrote:
Wow - that's keen. I bought some too at Warfare - but they're still
shiny silver, in their little plastic bag.
I do like your colour scheme. I'll copy that if you don't mind.
> http://www.glendale.org.uk/ft/raiders/ravagers.html
Hi Sam,
Nice site, and the SVG came out ok on my hamster powered, Micro$oft toating
machine.
Love the paint jobs.
I was intrigued by your other raider page with the SSDs and little pics of
ships which look remarkably like some Italerie (Sp? Italian company that make
plastic models and soldiers) ships I got a while back. The bottom ship looks
like one I cut the tail off and turned into the command module of a
freighter/fleet auxilary. They paint up very nicely. I've rated these
ships as corvettes or frigates and they form the fleet of the Delta Trianguli
separatist raiders who have being annoying the ESU in the
Trans-Vega Sector.
Regards,
David
> Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 15:59:44 +0000
> I bought some yesterday at Warfare, and I've done a bit of painting
On Tue, November 22, 2005 8:06, David Billinghurst said:
> Hi Sam,
I going down the SVG route since it's well suited to these sort of graphics,
and people can download and edit them themselves easily, since it's all object
based. I've got some templates available as well if people are interested (and
if anyone wants to contribute to a Free library of FT graphics, even better).
The only issue is SVG is relatively unsupported (compared to JPEG for
instance).
> Love the paint jobs.
Thanks. Chosen partly because it was really easy to do (spray black,
then add a bit of red) :-)
> I was intrigued by your other raider page with the SSDs and little
They're all from Silent Death, and were hand drawn in the days before digital
cameras where common.
> I've rated these
Anything which annoys the ESU is good!
> > I was intrigued by your other raider page with the SSDs
David, are you thinking of Stratelabri(horrible sp?)? Took over the ICE
plastic designs for a bit, including the Space Rangers and those robot
thingies; I think Iron Wind is doing the metal casting, but I'm not sure about
that.
Course, Strat could be somehow associated with Italerie (continued sp?), but I
wasn't aware of it.
> > I've rated these
I beg your pardon! ;->=
The_Beast
Quoting Doug Evans:
> > I was intrigued by your other raider page with the SSDs
I have never understood who actually owns the rights to these plastic minis
that were in the Silent Death boxed set. They are now sold under the name "XXX
Century Starships" from Nexus, formerly Atlantic and the Italeri logo is in
the bottom corner.
http://www.modelsforsale.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=17_17999967&
products_id=117190
You can also get them from EM4 Miniatures: www.em4miniatures.com
Larger versions of the same ships are available from a toy distributor (don't
have the link handy)
All the while the plastics are still available from ICE for Silent Death and
RAFM still makes the metal versions of the minis, also available from ICE
(ironcrown.com)
That RAFM action may be more "under the table, recouping monies owed by ICE
and never paid". Moral but not necessarily legal. It might even be legal, but
if it is, it's probably because of sloppy legal work by the people who believe
they've bought the rights to the models.
> -----Original Message-----
http://www.modelsforsale.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=17_17999967&
pr
> oducts_id=117190
Thanks, Dean. Obviously, my confusion is even greater than yours.
> Larger versions of the same ships are available from a toy
You mean the resin cast ones? I thought ICE was still selling them, too.
Course, I'm pretty sure I saw them at Origins being sold out of another booth,
but can't recall whom. Picked up one; should make a nice trophy if I ever get
SD tourneys running. Some of the same folk swearing they'd like to see FT
flying again, actually.
> All the while the plastics are still available from ICE
Ok, I was afraid I was saying IronWind, not confusing with Iron Crown
Enterprises, but with the 'Tech they're still doing. Right now, my brain hurts
so from trying to learn to be an emergency responder, I'm not sure of much of
anything.
Maybe it's a RAFM/Ral Partha confusion?
> That RAFM action may be more "under the table, recouping
Good point, Tom; some of us are just beginning to see how complex the whole
issue of rights is when you're talking intercontinental, right?
Hell, Nebraska and Kansas can't get simple water rights straight. ;->=
The_Beast
Speaking of plastic space ships, I have some from a set called "Noble Armada"
I think from Holistic Designs, and not in production any more. There are two
ships in particular that I've adapted for use in Dirtside.
One is a "cresent shaped fighter" - looks similar to a Star Gate Death
Glider, and the other is from the same "race", but is some kind of transport
with a big box in it's belly.
If anyone has any of either ship (I'll try to get web pics up over the
weekend so that you know what I'm talking about - I'm not sure I could
tell from my description!) that they're willing to part with, please let
me know.
I can use up to 3 of each.
Thanks!
Quoting John K Lerchey:
> Speaking of plastic space ships, I have some from a set called "Noble
Those are the Decados Frigate and Decados Galliot.
I have pictures here: www.star-ranger.com/Stuff/Fleets.htm
Noble Armada is still available and you can buy a 'Ships of the Line' box of
these plastic minis that include 4 each of those plus 4 each of a few other
minis.
http://www.metal-express.net/HDI/hdi-na.htm
I might have some extras of those ships too, I will have to check.
Quoting Doug Evans:
> Thanks, Dean. Obviously, my confusion is even greater than yours.
Sometimes, but not always.
> Larger versions of the same ships are available from a toy
Nope, not the 3:1 large resin ships. I did find the link, go to
http://www.ustoy.com and then look up item number 1601, then click on
the picture (the direct link is very long). I think these are about 50% larger
than the other plastic versions of the same ships from ICE and the rest.
> On 11/22/05, Nyrath the nearly wise <nyrathwiz@comcast.net> wrote:
It does do SVG, and it is very good. I used it first on Windows, and I'm using
it a lot on Linux these days.
There's a new version out just a day or two ago, actually.
> On Wednesday 23 November 2005 00:57, Nyrath the nearly wise wrote:
I used to use Sodipodi, this batch I did with Inkscape.