Hi again all.....
Second pre-production mould of new 15mm stuff made this morning
(successfully), containing lots more new stuff sculpted over the weekend!
Things in this batch include:
Light Tracked APC - all-new hull, to use same tread units as Light
Tank, will have three different versions made by interchanging hull roof
panel: 1) basic APC with roof hatches and command cupola (separate hatch and
commander figure supplied);
2) Command APC with cupola (separate hatch and commander figure
supplied) plus choice of 3 radar/sensor fitments (2 different radomes
as per the MBT kit, plus a very nice all-new radar scanner);
3) weapons carrier with either RF cannon/DFFG turret (as on the
Guncrab) or a new four-round GMS launcher, which can also be used to
retrofit the Guncrab as a GMS version!
PLUS....
Rocket Artillery vehicle on the MBT chassis, which can be assembled
as either a 4- or 8-round box launcher (this looks VERY nice, though
I do say it myself....!). The 4-round launch box modules will have
all sorts of other uses too, including as palletised reload modules on cargo
carriers. We'll probably do a "battery" deal on (say) three of these along
with a Command APC as a fire control vehicle....
I've also fitted into the mould all sorts of little bits and pieces, including
some 15mm cans, boxes and general stowage!
I will be assembling a couple of the first-off castings later today,
so hopefully some pics very soon! Tomorrow we start
production-moulding the whole lot, so they should be available to buy
very shortly - obviously I'll announce it to the list, but keep an
eye on the webstore too.
Best to all,
OK guys, here you go: today's new mouldings, again pre-production
samples only, but production moulds will be made in the next few days.
I've just sent photos to both John Lerchey and to Adrian for the
stargrunt.ca site - so check them both out very soon and hopefully
they'll be up for you to take a look at!
Here's the provisional list of codes and prices (including last week's ones),
it should be fairly obvious which is which I hope!
V15-01A "Cougar" Main Battle Tank (tracked) - 3 gun options
6.50 GBP each
V15-02A "Puma" Light Scout Tank (tracked) - 2 gun options
4.50 GBP each
V15-03A "GunCrab" quad walker with gun turret - 2 gun options 5.00 GBP
each
V15-03B "GunCrab" quad walker with missile turret
5.00 GBP each
V15-04A "Chariot" Light APC (tracked)
4.50 GBP each
V15-04B "Chariot" Light APC with gun turret - 2 gun options
4.50 GBP each
V15-04C "Chariot" Light APC with missile turret
4.50 GBP each
V15-04D "Chariot" Light APC Command version - 3 sensor options
4.50 GBP each
V15-05A SLAM artillery launcher on Cougar MBT chassis 6.50 GBP
each
Note that the 03B Missile variant Guncrab uses the same launcher as the 04C
(pictured), and the 04B has the same gun mount and barrel choices as the 03A
Guncrab. The pic of the APC parts shows all three hull tops, plus the extra
parts for the command and missile variants; not shown are the tread units (as
per the light tank), the hatch cover or the commander figure. The pic of the
SLAM parts just shows the specific launcher bits, the kit contains the MBT
hull and treads.
Oh, and in case anyone is wondering, the aerials on the assembled
models are plastic broom bristles - very handy, because you don't
stab your hand every time you go to pick a mini up like you can with
sharp wire ones! The minis have pre-cast locating collars for the
aerials, which fit easily with a dab of superglue and a whiff of accelerator.
All the best,
Hi All,
Pics are up, and I must say, the models are very, very nice.:)
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> Zero Games <jon@gzg.com> wrote:
Ahhhhhh! Stop it! Stop it! I haven't got my taxes sent in yet, and you tempt
me with these new models!
Ahhhhh!!!!!!
M 'stupid taxes' k
Hi Folks,
> I've just sent photos to both John Lerchey and to Adrian for the
I've put up a gallery article at stargrunt.ca with "colour corrected" versions
of Jon T's photos, here at:
http://www.stargrunt.ca/gallery_modeling/sg2_gal_15mmGZGvehicles/sg2_gal
_15mmGZGvehicles.htm
and includes his notes on the vehicles, etc.
I agree with John L and Indy... these are *nice* models.
The mouldings look truly excellent, especially for 15mm.
Is it me though, or does the APC look a bit small next to the figure?
Best regards, Robert Bryett rbryett@mail.com
> On 21/03/2006, at 7:35 AM, John K Lerchey wrote:
> Hi All,
> The mouldings look truly excellent, especially for 15mm.
This one is deliberately a LIGHT APC, equivalent to (say) a British
"Spartan" - it would probably carry only a 4-6 man dismount element
rather than the full squad you'd get in an M113 or an FV432. Rest
assured there will be some bigger APCs coming soon as well. :-)
On the other hand, have you actually seen just how small a Russian BMP really
is in the back....? And they get 8 troopers in there!!
;-)
Jon (GZG)
> Best regards, Robert Bryett
> On Mar 20, 2006, at 5:47 PM, Ground Zero Games wrote:
> On the other hand, have you actually seen just how small a Russian
For the BMP-1...the BMP-2 was reduced to 6 dismounts. don't know
past that.
i had a buddy who was a BMP driver -- they actually select short
troopers for that sort of (mechanized) duty.
Damo
> On Mar 20, 2006, at 5:47 PM, Ground Zero Games wrote:
I presume that's because the BMP 2 and 3 had bigger turrets, hence even less
room for the squishies in the back.
> i had a buddy who was a BMP driver -- they actually select short
Having peered in the back of the ex-Iraqi one they have at the IWM at
Duxford, all I can say is "rather them than me...." ;-)
> On Mar 20, 2006, at 6:28 PM, Ground Zero Games wrote:
> Having peered in the back of the ex-Iraqi one they have at the IWM
Having spent time in the back of a M-109 going cross country (at a
low rate of speed) I could only imagine what the infantry in the back of a BMP
goes through...
Damo
That's why it's called a BMP. That's the sound your head makes when it slams
against the roof.:)
--Greg
> On Mon, 20 Mar 2006, Damond Walker wrote:
> Having spent time in the back of a M-109 going cross country (at a
> of a BMP goes through...
Not too bad!
I just hope that you do my two favorite vehicles from the Dirtside Miniatures
line the Paladin and Phalanx in 15mm.
Not too bad!
I just hope that you do my two favorite vehicles from the Dirtside Miniatures
line the Paladin and Phalanx in 15mm.
Nope, Jon works in mysterious non liner ways......)
> I just hope that you do my two favorite vehicles from the Dirtside
I agree. My dream for a long time is a few 15mm Phalanx for my 15mm NAC troops
to ride in.
For now they have to be happy with other transport.
But I will not give up my dream, I will hope. :-)
dafrca
> Daniel Casquilho wrote:
> I agree. My dream for a long time is a few 15mm Phalanx for my 15mm
I'll cast my vote / toss in my $0.02 as well...
> Not too bad!
So that's where I'm going wrong, forgot to put a liner in..... ;-)
Seriously, the main reason I haven't (yet) done 15mm versions of the 25s is
that the style and methods of building the masters are very different for
metal 15s than resin 25s, and in order to get the new range started it's been
much faster to do new designs that lend
themselves to the 15mm techniques. However, don't give up hope - I DO
have some plans to do at least some of the existing vehicles in 15mm,
and the wheeled stuff is near the top of that wish-list; the only
thing I will say is that they may not be EXACT downscaled copies - I
may do "updated versions", eg a Paladin II and Phalanx II...... :-)
> Seriously, the main reason I haven't (yet) done 15mm versions of the
Maybe a silly question, but why not do the 25mm resin as 15mm resin. Why do
they need to go to metal?
> the only thing I will say is that they may not be EXACT downscaled
I expect that would be wise. It will give you room to have adjustments etc
that make sense for the mini. I know a few others who have done the same. The
overall basic look is there, but small details are different enough that it is
not a copy.
Either way, I am most interested in them. :-)
dafrca
> >Seriously, the main reason I haven't (yet) done 15mm versions of the
Because resin production is slow, labour-intensive and a general pain
in the a*** compared with metal! It's OK if you're set up to do almost
everything in resin, as some other small manufacturers are, but as 95% of what
we produce now is metal I decided not to go the resin route with the new 15s.
You can also do lots of cool stuff in metal that really wouldn't be practical
in resin!
Jon (GZG)
PS: Coming very soon in 15mm metals....
"Wombat II" hover APC Heavy Gunsled (grav battle tank) Assault Sled (grav APC)
Light Gunsled (grav recon tank/light weapons platform)
"OcTank" HABAT (Heavy Ambulatory BAttle Tank) - 8 legged walker MBT....!
Then I start work on the wheeled ones.... ;-)
> the only thing I will say is that they may not be EXACT downscaled
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> Zero Games <jon@gzg.com> wrote:
The Mamba series, maybe? :-)
Mk
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http://lists.csua.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gzg-l>On 4/6/06, Ground
> Zero Games <<mailto:jon@gzg.com>jon@gzg.com> wrote:
Well, you never know.... ;-)
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avoiding the 15s telling myself you didn't have the vehicles I need. With the
advent of 15mm Wombats that goes right out the window.
Roger
> On 4/6/06, Ground Zero Games <jon@gzg.com> wrote:
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http://lists.csua.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gzg-l>Damn, I was
avoiding the 15s telling myself you didn't have the
> vehicles I need. With the advent of 15mm Wombats that goes right
It's not an exact copy of the 25mm/6mm Wombat, hence the "II" in the
designation, but it's the same basic configuration and I think you'll
like it.... ;-)
Jon (GZG)
> On 4/6/06, Ground Zero Games <<mailto:jon@gzg.com>jon@gzg.com> wrote:
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making requests...
Could you make a Wombat flat-bed varient? Maybe with a MRL launcher?
See, each of my platoons is supposed to have 4 wombats and 1 light artillery
vehicle which uses a Wombat chassis. I can hack it but it's prettier when you
do it.:)
Roger
> On 4/6/06, Ground Zero Games <jon@gzg.com> wrote:
> Maybe a silly question, but why not do the 25mm resin as 15mm resin.
Thanks Jon. As I have done neither, I did not understand. It is always fun to
learn something every day!.
> PS: Coming very soon in 15mm metals....
UM, yummy GEV goodness. Look forward to it.
dafrca
> Roger Books wrote:
> Damn, I was avoiding the 15s telling myself you didn't have the
wrote:
> > >Seriously, the main reason I haven't (yet) done 15mm versions
:-)
> >
Yeah, more converts to 15mm!!!
Join us, join us...
> Roger Books wrote:
> While everyone is making requests...
> See, each of my platoons is supposed to have 4 wombats and 1 light
> prettier when you do it. :)
wrote:
> Damn, I was avoiding the 15s telling myself you didn't have the
In a related question, are the Heavy Gunsled or Assault Sled designed so
they can accomodate your already existing MRL module? That would be wicked
cool if you designed that kind of modularity into the whole 15mm line.
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Gzg-l@lists.csua.berkeley.edu
http://lists.csua.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gzg-l>While everyone is
making requests...
> Could you make a Wombat flat-bed varient? Maybe with a MRL
Once the basic vehicle is done, variants are relatively easy - so
yes, expect these and more.....! ;-)
Jon (GZG)
> Roger
> In a related question, are the Heavy Gunsled or Assault Sled
Pretty much all the turrets/weapons will swap around between the
hulls, so yes, you will be able to mix-and-match!
I personally was waiting on 15mm AV6's and AV9's. But with the new vehicles
looking so good, I may just take the plunge anyway.
> On Thu, 6 Apr 2006, Roger Books wrote:
> Damn, I was avoiding the 15s telling myself you didn't have the
:-)
> I expect that would be wise. It will give you room to have
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of an agnostic. I have a 25mm platoon with which I am quite happy. That only
works when I have other friends with 25s. If I get a platoon or two of 15s I
am covered for anyone who wants to play.
Roger
> On 4/6/06, Mark Kinsey <Kinseym@ptd.net> wrote:
I dunno; better get some DSII, green soldiers, and some 12" GI Joes, just
to be sure... ;->=
We've list members admitting to all of the above.
The_Beast
Roger wrote on 04/07/2006 07:27:22 AM:
> Not a convert, more of an agnostic. I have a 25mm platoon
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http://lists.csua.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gzg-lNah, I want to play
DSII with 25mm soldiers and vehicles. I've done 25mm Ogre and it was very fun.
I don't even need satellite photos, the yard or park works nicely.:)
Roger
> On 4/7/06, Doug Evans <devans@nebraska.edu> wrote:
> From: Doug Evans
You left out 2mm and 54mm. :-)
Chris, I don't recall any 2mm SGII discussions, which I thought was the
thrust, but could well be wrong on both accounts. However, I thought common
green
soldiers were nominal 54mm. Not that I don't have 25, 28-30, and
whatever
near 6" would be. ;->=
I've a couple of 12" Aliens, waiting for friends, and several 12" GI Joes,
waiting for kit, that may or may not be a LEG board game someday. However,
they arent' green or ever will be. Well, maybe I'll get a Barbie a chest
burster to be a colonist. Blue-green would be apropos there...
I've seen similar games, and they are KEWL.
Roger: Of course! I've seen, though not played, 25/28mm Ogre games; may
have a 'macroture' in the basement. I'm just waiting for the 1/6th
scale.
What I'd REALLY like is FT with those 6' Star Destroyers... *whoof*
The_Beast
Chris wrote on 04/07/2006 07:45:09 AM:
> Chris,
IIRC, Magic has 2mm for use while he's on a plane. I've never been certain
whether he was playing and piloting at the same time.
> but could well be wrong on both accounts. However, I thought common
Could be. The ones I have are more like 20mm.
> What I'd REALLY like is FT with those 6' Star Destroyers... *whoof*
Might be a little tough to maneuver. But imagine one of those as the setting,
and your ships are 6mm TIEs and X wings.
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> net wrote:
> Chris,
Like this one?
<http://cgi.ebay.com/8-Ft-One-of-a-Kind-LEGO-STAR-WARS-REBEL-ATTACK-CRUI
SER_W0QQitemZ6022866702QQcategoryZ19009QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem>
I'm assuming it weighs a ton, and would be even tougher to manuever.
The folks at Sci Fi Supply used to run floor games with their own rules
using ships built from their vacuum-formed detail sheets, and wheeled
bases
that seemed to move easy enough. Viz Roger's comment about yards/parks,
this was always a possibility, though anything six-foot-long-on-a-stick
would take a crew to move, though the rules made the big ships move VERY
slowly. Probably close to matching LL's imagination.
Also, they used MicroMachines for the fighters; close enough to 6mm, and I've
a metric b***load of those if ever I got around to building the ships.
I think two 4 x 8 styro insulation sheets, slant cut down the middle, and
beveled on the long edge, would be a start.
That, and >$30K-US a pop is definitely daunting.
The_Beast
Tony wrote on 04/07/2006 08:39:40 AM:
***snippage***
> Might be a little tough to maneuver. But imagine one of
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> though the rules made the big ships move VERY
Baa.
I meant the part about it being fighter action. ;->=
The_Beast
Chris wrote on 04/07/2006 09:20:05 AM:
> >though the rules made the big ships move VERY
> Roger Books wrote:
> Nah, I want to play DSII with 25mm soldiers and vehicles. I've done
I was pretty sure I wasn't the first to think of playing OGRE at the park when
I saw the hexagonal pavers they use.
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> On Apr 7, 2006, at 12:32 AM, tsarith@io.com wrote:
> I personally was waiting on 15mm AV6's and AV9's. But with the new
Yes, those would be great....
Maybe even the Police cars?
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