[GZG] [OFFICIAL] 15mm question to the list.... (and more 15mm news!)

22 posts · Apr 7 2006 to Apr 13 2006

From: Ground Zero Games <jon@g...>

Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 15:53:24 +0100

Subject: [GZG] [OFFICIAL] 15mm question to the list.... (and more 15mm news!)

Question for those of you who use our 15mm infantry:

We are starting on some extra packs for the existing infantry forces, things
like kneeling and prone figures, extra support weapons,
snipers, officers, comms/ecm guys and all that stuff.....

First out will be a generic Command unit pack (for combat group HQs),
consisting of senior officers, NCOs/sentries, comms operators etc,
all in fatigues only. PLUS... A pack of kneeling and prone riflemen for each
of the NAC, NSL, NI
and ESU. We picked these as the most popular/best selling forces, and
this first batch has now been commissioned from the sculptor.

Now, the question is which nations do we pick NEXT to do the
kneeling/prone figs for?

Options are:

UNSC Islamic Fed FSE Kra'Vak OUDF
Free Cal-Tex
Japanese Phalon Colonial Militia

If you'd like to rate these in your own personal order of preference, the
results would be very useful!

Best,

From: Laserlight <laserlight@q...>

Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 10:03:49 -0500 (CDT)

Subject: Re: [GZG] [OFFICIAL] 15mm question to the list.... (and more 15mm news!)

> Options are:

> Colonial Militia

From: Indy Kochte <kochte@s...>

Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 11:07:48 -0400

Subject: Re: [GZG] [OFFICIAL] 15mm question to the list.... (and more 15mm news!)

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http://lists.csua.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gzg-lOn 4/7/06, Ground
> Zero Games <jon@gzg.com> wrote:

Yes!

First out will be a generic Command unit pack (for combat group HQs),
> consisting of senior officers, NCOs/sentries, comms operators etc,

Yes!!

A pack of kneeling and prone riflemen for each of the NAC, NSL, NI
> and ESU. We picked these as the most popular/best selling forces, and

Yes!!!

Now, the question is which nations do we pick NEXT to do the
> kneeling/prone figs for?

Oooooooo.....!

Options are:

1) UNSC 2) Kra'Vak 3) Phalon
4) Free Cal-Tex
5) FSE 6) Colonial Militia 7) OUDF

Haven't played with/acquired any of the others listed.

BTW, you forgot Grunts and the Egyptian dudes. ;-)  (the latter who may
never be prone much, but do kneel). Then there are the scanfeds, but I s'pects
they are much further down the list.

If you'd like to rate these in your own personal order of preference,
> the results would be very useful!

Rated.  :-)

Mk

From: Roger Books <books@m...>

Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 11:15:11 -0400

Subject: Re: [GZG] [OFFICIAL] 15mm question to the list.... (and more 15mm news!)

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http://lists.csua.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gzg-lThe Dutch didn't
make the list.:(

Roger

> On 4/7/06, Ground Zero Games <jon@gzg.com> wrote:

From: Roger Books <books@m...>

Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 11:18:57 -0400

Subject: Re: [GZG] [OFFICIAL] 15mm question to the list.... (and more 15mm news!)

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http://lists.csua.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gzg-lAny chance SFE1
will make it to 25? I'd buy 48 of those today, even if there were only 2 or
three poses. I really want those for running a game at Dragon Con using the
StarGrunt rules.

Roger

> On 4/7/06, Ground Zero Games <jon@gzg.com> wrote:

From: le TiYo <letiyo@w...>

Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 17:29:08 +0200 (CEST)

Subject: [GZG] [OFFICIAL] 15mm question to the list.... (and more 15mm news!)

Really great news!!!!!

If i have to rate options it will comes like this:
1- FSE
2- Kra'Vak
3- OUDF
4- UNSC
5- IF
6- FCT
7- Japanese
8- Phalon
9- Colonial Militia

Regards,

From: Tony Francis <tony.francis@k...>

Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 16:33:10 +0100

Subject: Re: [GZG] [OFFICIAL] 15mm question to the list.... (and more 15mm news!)

UNSC FSE FCT Colonials Phalons

Don't think I have any of the rest

Tony

> Ground Zero Games wrote:

> Question for those of you who use our 15mm infantry:

> in fatigues only. PLUS...

> ESU. We picked these as the most popular/best selling forces, and this

> first batch has now been commissioned from the sculptor.

From: Ground Zero Games <jon@g...>

Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 16:50:49 +0100

Subject: Re: [GZG] [OFFICIAL] 15mm question to the list.... (and more 15mm news!)

_______________________________________________
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Gzg-l@lists.csua.berkeley.edu
http://lists.csua.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gzg-l>The Dutch didn't
make the list.:(

That's because we haven't done the Dutch figs at all in 15mm yet -
but don't worry, they're one of the remaining forces I want to get round to
eventually!

Jon (GZG)

> Roger

From: Oerjan Ariander <oerjan.ariander@t...>

Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 17:59:13 +0200

Subject: Re: [GZG] [OFFICIAL] 15mm question to the list.... (and more 15mm news!)

> Jon T. wrote:

> Question for those of you who use our 15mm infantry:

> officers, comms/ecm guys and all that stuff.....

Phalons. *Definitely* Phalons :-)

...oh, and we want them in 6mm as well. And the vehicles too, of course
;-)

Later,

From: Michael Brown <mwbrown@s...>

Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 10:20:37 -0600

Subject: RE: [GZG] [OFFICIAL] 15mm question to the list.... (and more 15mm news!)

Colonial Militia
Free Cal-Tex
Japanese FSE Kra'Vak

In that order.

Michael Brown mwsaber6@msn.com

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From: Mark Kinsey <Kinseym@p...>

Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 13:56:16 -0400

Subject: Re: [GZG] [OFFICIAL] 15mm question to the list.... (and more 15mm news!)

> Ground Zero Games wrote:

> Question for those of you who use our 15mm infantry:

> in fatigues only. PLUS...

> ESU. We picked these as the most popular/best selling forces, and this

> first batch has now been commissioned from the sculptor.
I'd say...

Islamic Fed
Free-Cal-Tex
OUDF UNSC Phalon Kra'Vak Colonial Miltia FSE Japanese

What about Slammers???

Thanks for soliciting opinions. You're the best Jon.

From: Doug Evans <devans@n...>

Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 13:08:07 -0500

Subject: Re: [GZG] [OFFICIAL] 15mm question to the list.... (and more 15mm news!)

I thought someone else had the license for the vehicles. I think the 25mm
stuff was before the deal.

http://www.oldcrowmodels.co.uk/hammers.htm

Jon, do you have figs in the starter packs with rules?

http://www.miniwargames.com/

And, having put my foot in it in the past, is there any hard feelings betwixt
thee and Old Crow? Just seemed natural that you'd both have links to the
other. A simple answer to my first question of "Yes, now hush!" is enough.

The_Beast

Mark wrote on 04/07/2006 12:56:16 PM:

***snippage***
> What about Slammers???

From: Jason Weiser <atlas7d@e...>

Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 14:25:50 -0400

Subject: RE: [GZG] [OFFICIAL] 15mm question to the list.... (and more 15mm news!)

[quoted original message omitted]

From: Evyn MacDude <infojunky@c...>

Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 11:55:55 -0700

Subject: Re: [GZG] [OFFICIAL] 15mm question to the list.... (and more 15mm news!)

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> On Apr 7, 2006, at 7:53 AM, Ground Zero Games wrote:

> Now, the question is which nations do we pick NEXT to do the

Here is the order in my preference.

1.Colonial Militia 2.Phalon 3.UNSC 4.FSE 5.Islamic Fed
6.OUDF / Free Cal-Tex
7.Kra'Vak 8.Japanese

From: Brian Burger <yh728@v...>

Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 12:57:58 -0700

Subject: Re: [GZG] [OFFICIAL] 15mm question to the list.... (and more 15mm news!)

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http://lists.csua.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gzg-lMy prefs:

1.UNSC 2.Colonial Militia 3.Phalon 4.Kra'vak
5->n. whatever :P

Brian
www.warbard.ca/games.html

From: Inire <inire@y...>

Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 13:06:57 -0700 (PDT)

Subject: Re: [GZG] [OFFICIAL] 15mm question to the list.... (and more 15mm news!)

UNSC IJSF K'V

Jeff "My dice hate me!" Fearnow Gaming to keep War out of RealTime!

"Kaylee! Find me that kid taking the turd nap with baby Jesus - we need
a hood ornament!" - Capt Mal Reynolds

DR650SM "Recon Viggie"/DOD#1890

From: Allan Goodall <agoodall@a...>

Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 16:07:58 -0500

Subject: Re: [GZG] [OFFICIAL] 15mm question to the list.... (and more 15mm news!)

On 4/7/06, gzg-l-request@lists.csua.berkeley.edu
> <gzg-l-request@lists.csua.berkeley.edu> wrote:

> Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 15:53:24 +0100

> Now, the question is which nations do we pick NEXT to do the

I would prefer Phalons. I have Phalons, NAC, and ESU in 15mm.

I have no plans to buy any other nations in the foreseeable future. I will
probably expand on what I have.

From: Ground Zero Games <jon@g...>

Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 18:23:58 +0100

Subject: Re: [GZG] [OFFICIAL] 15mm question to the list.... (and more 15mm news!)

> I thought someone else had the license for the vehicles. I think the

OK, the condensed version of the full story is this:

We did the 25mm "Slammers" vehicles in our range (SF25-101, 102, 103)
in collaboration with South London Warlords (specifically, John Treadaway),
before the Handbook project was ever mentioned. The vehicle designs were the
nearest that John and I could come up with between us based on what little
design material had already been published in various places. Then, when the
Slammers Handbook project was started and Dave Drake gave his approval for it,
it turned out that our visualisations were
not quite what the author had in his mind while writing - so after
some discussions it was decided that Jez at Old Crow would do some new ones
based on David's descriptions, while we concentrated on doing the infantry,
again to Drake's descriptions. However, David has always been very happy with
us continuing to do our original vehicle designs, to the extent that they have
been written into the handbook as earlier marks still in use by other units.
I'd like to take this opportunity to point out that Dave Drake is a REALLY
nice guy, and
has been wonderfully supportive of the whole thing!  :-)

> Jon, do you have figs in the starter packs with rules?

Yes, MiniWarg's starter pack uses our 15mm figures along with the Old
Crow vehicles - you get some of our 15mm slammers (of course) plus
some NSL troops as the opposition force.

> And, having put my foot in it in the past, is there any hard feelings
is
> enough.

No problems at all between us and Jez at OC - he's a nice guy and a
really talented designer, and the stuff he's working on is quite
different from ours in most cases - I think we complement each other
rather than directly compete.

Jon (GZG)

> The_Beast

From: Kevin Walker <sage@c...>

Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 13:27:09 -0700

Subject: Re: [GZG] [OFFICIAL] 15mm question to the list.... (and more 15mm news!)

Yes, I'm returning from being MIA for a number of months...

Personal Preferences being: Kra'Vak FSE UNSC Phalon
Free Cal-Tex
Islamic Fed OUDF...any remaining:)

Kevin Walker

> On Apr 7, 2006, at 7:53 AM, Ground Zero Games wrote:

> Now, the question is which nations do we pick NEXT to do the

From: Unknown Sender <@

Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 07:06:21 +0200 (CEST)

Subject: Re: [GZG] [OFFICIAL] 15mm question to the list.... (and more 15mm news!)

Greetings,

My list would be: Kra'Vak Phalon UNSC Japanese OUDF Colonial Militia
Free Cal-Tex
Islamic Fed FSE

Well, and some Alien Bounty Hunters would be welcomed as well ;-)

Greetings,

Akos Büky

> On Apr 7, 2006, at 7:53 AM, Ground Zero Games wrote:

From: Evyn MacDude <infojunky@c...>

Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 22:13:43 -0700

Subject: Re: [GZG] [OFFICIAL] 15mm question to the list.... (and more 15mm news!)

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> On Apr 12, 2006, at 10:06 PM, Büky Ákos wrote:

> Well, and some Alien Bounty Hunters would be welcomed as well ;-)

Those would be cool....

Evyn infojunky@ceecom.net

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                                        -Robinson, A.

From: Mark A. Siefert <cthulhu@c...>

Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 01:42:05 -0500

Subject: Re: [GZG] [OFFICIAL] 15mm question to the list.... (and more 15mm news!)

My picks:

UNSC: Free CalTex FSE Colonial Militia

Later,

Mark A. Siefert, Miniature Gamer Radio
http://minigameradio.libsyn.com

> Ground Zero Games wrote:

> Question for those of you who use our 15mm infantry:

> in fatigues only. PLUS...

> ESU. We picked these as the most popular/best selling forces, and this

> first batch has now been commissioned from the sculptor.