Funny Canadian connection (Hudak may or may not remember this, possibly also
Mr.Raynes or Mr.Davis)...
One year, visiting Mike Sarno in PA, there were references made to Mountain
Dew and Code Red and I said "What's the big deal? It's sweet swamp water that
isn't that good and what's the point?" David Raynes pointed out that the
programming industry thrives on it in the USA. I was puzzled. I said "Why?"
and the reply involved the vast amount of sugar and caffeine it contains. I
was further puzzled. "Caffeine? Mountain Dew contains caffeine in the US?" The
looks I got around the table from the 'Mericans was priceless.
Sarno took one look at me and said
"What the Hell kind of Communist country do you come from anyway? No
caffeine in Mountain Dew - what the Hell???!??!!"
I pointed out that, as far as I know, the only carbonated beverages in
Canada with caffeine are colas - I don't think you *can* add caffeine
here to anything else. Thus Mountain Dew ends up as some sort of sickly
tasting, unmemorable beverage. If you want steam for long hours and late
nights, Coke Classic, C2 or (heaven forfend) Jolt Cola or that g*dfosaken
fruity Red Bull crap is your weapon of choice. Me, I just drink some C2 or
Diet Coke.
But then, apparently I'm from a Communist Country.... True, North, Strong, and
Communist!
TomB
PS - The comment Mike Sarno made fit in even better because at the
time we were running a weekend campaign of an ESU attack on the NAC colony of
New Providence (expat New Englanders, some Basques, Canadian
Maritimers - mostly acquatic economy, small islands, etc). This also
spawned Mike's other great line of the weekend... when the ESU were landing
for their assault on the starport after fighting a brutal battle over the
PDC.... Sarno, speaking as the New Providence military commander sent a
communique to the ESU... the equivalent of Bastogne's "Nuts".... a one line
message: "Get your ass back to Eurasia!". And that was kind of how the hard
fought campaign ended up too (ESU sent packing with bloody nose)!
> Phillip Atcliffe wrote:
Not neighbourhood -- /country!/ Mountain Dew was (finally) released in
the UK in the mid-90s, but vanished completely a couple of years later.
I was just lucky in that the place I worked at the time had just received what
must have been a large shipment of cans of the stuff just prior to its sudden
disappearance, so I was able to get it from vending machines and the
occasional local shop that I found to still have some for something like a
year afterwards. But I haven't seen it since, until I wancdered into, of all
things, an Asian supermarket in the local
Chinatown, and there it was! Now I conduct semi-regular raids to buy as
much as I can easily carry away. It's a pain to have to rely on public
transport; if I had a car readily available here, I could get so much more. If
I could afford it, of course; since, as far as I can work out, Dew is imported
rather than made here, it's not cheap.
Phil, planning a raid for the weekend... 8-)
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hhh...Jolt Cola...
I agree, what's the fuss. Would not a quad espresso, consumed several times a
day, do the trick just as well?
Hmmm. Must. Have. Coffee.
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scribble, scribble, scribble, eh?" (The Duke of Gloucester, on being presented
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> --- On Fri, 9/26/08, Tom B <kaladorn@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Tom B <kaladorn@gmail.com>
Subject: [GZG] Mountain Dew - Why the fuss?
To: gzg-l@vermouth.csua.berkeley.edu
Date: Friday, September 26, 2008, 4:47 AM
Funny Canadian connection (Hudak may or may not remember this, possibly also
Mr.Raynes or Mr.Davis)...
One year, visiting Mike Sarno in PA, there were references made to Mountain
Dew and Code Red and I said "What's the big deal? It's sweet swamp water that
isn't that good and what's the point?" David Raynes pointed out that the
programming industry thrives on it in the USA. I was puzzled. I said "Why?"
and the reply involved the vast amount of sugar and caffeine it contains. I
was further puzzled. "Caffeine? Mountain Dew contains caffeine in the US?" The
looks I got around the table from the 'Mericans was priceless.
Sarno took one look at me and said
"What the Hell kind of Communist country do you come from anyway? No
caffeine in Mountain Dew - what the Hell???!??!!"
I pointed out that, as far as I know, the only carbonated beverages in
Canada with caffeine are colas - I don't think you *can* add caffeine
here to anything else. Thus Mountain Dew ends up as some sort of sickly
tasting, unmemorable beverage. If you want steam for long hours and late
nights, Coke Classic, C2 or (heaven forfend) Jolt Cola or that g*dfosaken
fruity Red Bull crap is your weapon of choice. Me, I just drink some C2 or
Diet Coke.
But then, apparently I'm from a Communist Country.... True, North, Strong, and
Communist!
TomB
PS - The comment Mike Sarno made fit in even better because at the
time we were running a weekend campaign of an ESU attack on the NAC colony of
New Providence (expat New Englanders, some Basques, Canadian
Maritimers - mostly acquatic economy, small islands, etc). This also
spawned Mike's other great line of the weekend... when the ESU were landing
for their assault on the starport after fighting a brutal battle over the
PDC.... Sarno, speaking as the New Providence military commander sent a
communique to the ESU... the equivalent of Bastogne's "Nuts".... a one line
message: "Get your ass back to Eurasia!". And that was kind of how the hard
fought campaign ended up too (ESU sent packing with bloody nose)!
> Phillip Atcliffe wrote:
First Dew I've had for what -- 5 years? Blast the twits who took it off
the mass market.
> Wow, that is a neighborhood I need to avoid.
Not neighbourhood -- /country!/ Mountain Dew was (finally) released in
the UK in the mid-90s, but vanished completely a couple of years later.
I was just lucky in that the place I worked at the time had just received what
must have been a large shipment of cans of the stuff just prior to its sudden
disappearance, so I was able to get it from vending machines and the
occasional local shop that I found to still have some for something like a
year afterwards. But I haven't seen it since, until I wancdered into, of all
things, an Asian supermarket in the local
Chinatown, and there it was! Now I conduct semi-regular raids to buy as
much as I can easily carry away. It's a pain to have to rely on public
transport; if I had a car readily available here, I could get so much more. If
I could afford it, of course; since, as far as I can work out, Dew is imported
rather than made here, it's not cheap.
Phil, planning a raid for the weekend... 8-)
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> On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 3:47 AM, Tom B <kaladorn@gmail.com> wrote:
> One year, visiting Mike Sarno in PA, there were references made to
I was in an APA ostensibly based out of Toronto from 1989 to 1994, and
sometime around 1992 we had the same conversation with Americans in the APA.
To give you an idea of how far Americans have advanced in caffeine technology,
my choice is Crystal Light Energy. You add Crystal Light flavor crystals to
water to give it a fruit flavoring. You can buy them in packets for pitchers
of water, or in boxes with little bottled water sized packets. Crystal Light
Energy has 120 mg of caffeine for one bottle of water! This is about the same
as a cup of coffee, and twice what's in Mountain Dew (but half of what's in
Jolt).
(Crystal Light Focus has 80 mg, and you can now buy Crystal Light packets in
little plastic packages.)
I made it home from GenCon in one piece thanks to Crystal Light Energy...
Canada is indeed an odd place. I think the rationale for only allowing
caffeine to be added to colas was to make it very easy to know which pop had
no caffeine. For better, or for worse, guarana was
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From: Fred Kiesche
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 5:20 AM
To: gzg-l@vermouth.csua.berkeley.edu
Subject: Re: [GZG] Mountain Dew - Why the fuss?
Ahhhhh...Jolt Cola...
I agree, what's the fuss. Would not a quad espresso, consumed several times a
day, do the trick just as well?
Hmmm. Must. Have. Coffee.
F.P. Kiesche III "Ah Mr.Gibbon, another damned, fat, square book. Always,
scribble, scribble, scribble, eh?" (The Duke of Gloucester, on being presented
with Volume 2 of The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire.) Blogging at The
Lensman's Children and TexasBestGrok!
> --- On Fri, 9/26/08, Tom B <kaladorn@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Tom B <kaladorn@gmail.com>
Subject: [GZG] Mountain Dew - Why the fuss?
To: gzg-l@vermouth.csua.berkeley.edu
Date: Friday, September 26, 2008, 4:47 AM
Funny Canadian connection (Hudak may or may not remember this,possibly also
Mr.Raynes or Mr.Davis)...One year, visiting Mike Sarno in PA, there were
references made toMountain Dew and Code Red and I said "What's the big deal?
It'ssweetswamp water that isn't that good and what's the point?"
DavidRaynespointed out that the programming industry thrives on it in the USA.
Iwas puzzled. I said "Why?" and the reply involved the vast amount ofsugar and
caffeine it contains. I was further puzzled. "Caffeine?Mountain Dew contains
caffeine in the US?" The looks I got around thetable from the 'Mericans was
priceless.Sarno took one look at me and said"What the Hell kind of Communist
country do you come from anyway? Nocaffeine in
Mountain Dew - what the Hell???!??!!"I pointed out that, as far as I
know, the only carbonated beverages inCanada with caffeine are colas - I
don't think you *can* add caffeinehere to anything else. Thus Mountain Dew
ends up as some sort ofsickly tasting, unmemorable beverage. If you want steam
for long hoursand late nights, Coke Classic, C2 or (heaven forfend) Jolt Cola
orthat g*dfosaken fruity Red Bull crap is your weapon of choice. Me, Ijust
drink some C2 or Diet Coke.But then, apparently I'm
from a Communist Country.... True, North,Strong, and Communist!TomBPS -
The comment Mike Sarno made fit in even better because at thetime we were
running a weekend campaign of an ESU attack on the NACcolony of New
Providence (expat New Englanders, some Basques, CanadianMaritimers -
mostly acquatic economy, small islands, etc). This alsospawned Mike's other
great line of the weekend... when the ESU werelanding for their assault on the
starport after fighting a brutalbattle over the PDC.... Sarno, speaking as the
New Providence militarycommander sent a communique to the ESU... the
equivalent of Bastogne's"Nuts".... a one line message: "Get your ass back
toEurasia!". Andthat was kind of how the hard fought campaign ended up too
(ESU sentpacking with bloody nose)!> Phillip Atcliffe wrote:>>> Hudak, Michael
wrote:>>>>> I really need to lay off the Mt Dew....>>>>> Not me. I've only
just found a shop here that sells the stuff!First Dew
I've had for what -- 5 years? Blast the twits who took it off themass
market.>>> Wow, that is a neighborhood I need to avoid.>Not
neighbourhood -- /country!/ Mountain Dew was (finally) released inthe UK
in the mid-90s, but vanished completely a couple of years
later.I was just lucky in that the place I worked at the time had justreceived
what must have been a large shipment of cans of the stuff justprior to its
sudden disappearance, so I was able to get it from vendingmachines and the
occasional local shop that I found to still have somefor something like a year
afterwards. But I haven't seen it since, untilI wancdered into, of all things,
an Asian supermarket in the
localChinatown, and there it was! Now I conduct semi-regular raids to
buy asmuch as I can easily carry away. It's a pain to have to rely on
publictransport; if I had a car readily available here, I could get so
muchmore. If I could afford it, of course; since, as far as I can work out,Dew
is imported rather than made here, it's not cheap.Phil, planning
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Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 4:20 AM, Fred Kiesche
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> Ahhhhh...Jolt Cola...
Now that is one that has disappeared here locally. Funny thing too, as silicon
valley is just down the road aways....
> I agree, what's the fuss. Would not a quad espresso, consumed several
Unfortunately, coffee and my stomach don't get along any more....
Evyn
> On Fri, 26 Sep 2008, Allan Goodall wrote:
I found the Crystal Light on Sunday and bought some. I haven't been
brave enough yet to try it. That's some strong stuff.
I wish it came in more flavors...
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 8:37 AM, Mike Stanczyk <stanczyk@pcisys.net> wrote:
> I found the Crystal Light on Sunday and bought some. I haven't been
Me, too. That's why I tried the Focus stuff, actually. It has less caffeine,
but still has some, and it has a different flavor.