[GZG] Mercs and "Realism"

7 posts · Oct 19 2006 to Oct 24 2006

From: John Atkinson <johnmatkinson@y...>

Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 17:58:31 +0500

Subject: [GZG] Mercs and "Realism"

A mercenary soldier is a person fighting for a nation of which he is not a
citizen. Mercs seem to fall into a couple major categories. The vast majority
have not been part of what I would call "Mercenary
Units" but more like Foreign Legion-style units.

Most mercenaries are those individuals who enlist in other country's armies.
If there are enough of them, that country might form entire units of troops
from a particular source (Eagle squadrons in the RAF during WWII, Scots and
English regiments during the Dutch Rebellion, Abraham Lincoln brigades during
the Spanish Civil War etc.) Otherwise, like the Irish, Phillipinos, and
Canadians in the United States Army of today they are simply used to fill
whatever slot is empty alongside regular citizen soldiers. These sorts of
mercenaries are rarely featured in military SF because they are not as
'glamorous'. However, the vast majority of historical mercenaries fit this
category. Typically the units are organized, equipped, and often provided with
native officers identical to other units in the same army, and do not own
their equipment.

On occasion, these units may continue to be filled and even retained on a
peacetime establishment. The French and Spanish Foreign Legions, the Swiss
Guards of practically every early modern continental European power including
the Pope, and the Scots Guards of the French kings fit these categories.

There are a few motivations for this type of mercenary. Generally you get kids
looking for adventure, folks motivated by the cause, misanthropes who just get
off on killing, and people in such desperate economic straits that they have
few other options.

There is a subcategory of these troops which are fighting to earn citizenship
in the nation which they serve. Roman auxillia fit this bill, as do many
Resident Aliens in the United States Armed Forces. One cannot really consider
these individuals mercenaries.

Another type of "mercenary" is the loan of formed military units or indivduals
from one government to another. Flying Tigers, the Chinese Volunteer Corps,
the Condor Legion, aforementioned Maxim gun crews the Germans rented out to
the Spanish, the intial 4,000 Rus loaned to the Romans by the Prince of Kiev
(which unit later transformed into a Foreign Legion known as the Varangian
Guard) etc. As mentioned previously, this can be an attempt to keep a core of
combat veterans in a peacetime military, or it can be a way for a country to
involve itself in a war by thinly disguised proxy. In extremis, a government
may even use these soldiers as a means of raising hard currency for foreign
exchange (Cuban formations rented by the Soviets to fight proxy wars in
Africa, for instance) These are often provided in the form of military
technical advisors which accompany hardware actually used by the native troops
(See: Practically every third world country during the Cold War). Again,
considering these individuals true mercenaries would be stretching the point,
as they are merely professionals following the orders of their government.

The final category of is that much-loved by by authors both fictional
and historical. Formed units which own their own equipment and negotiate
contracts with governments to which their only attachment is financial. These
are exceedingly rare and difficult to maintain on a
long-term basis.  These sorts of unit are highly unusual and rarely
equipped with equipment which requires a significant logistical tail because
of the difficulty associated with replacing that equipment. These units would
consist of the desperate and the sociopathic only. Anyone who would kill their
fellow human beings with only the motivation of financial reward falls into
one of those categories.

The problem is that these units in a science fiction setting would be almost
entirely light or motorized infantry armed with a wide variety of disposable
AT weapons and small arms in a common caliber. Mechanized units would run into
the problem of resupply of spare parts and ammunition almost immediately. It
is difficult for a civilian to concieve of the amount of logistical support
required to keep a modern military motorpool going. On the other hand, a
handful of Land Rovers can be fairly easily supported by the supplies
available on a frontier planet and a good machinist with a portable machine
shop. Ammunition for exotic weaponry would have to either be brought in
shipping containers (which then have to be protected or the unit is useless)
and when you run out, you are screwed until you send an order back to the
factory, and it gets shipped out to you (assuming the government of the planet
where it is manufactured still permits selling ammo to that group of
mercenaries, or you know a good smuggler). The major powers would not hire
mercenaries because they have large,
high-quality armies already, and they would not want unique equipment
screwing up their logistical train by ordering exotic parts or ammo that
aren't normally stocked.

Having said that, these units are a stock piece in the military SF genre that
DSII was intended to emulate and thus occupy a warm place in many of our
hearts. I happen to think Falkenberg's Legion is a more realistic model than
Hammer's Slammers, but that doesn't stop me when I want to play a game with
hover tanks blowing the hell out of everything in their way.

Stop worrying about "realism", and put together whatever organization is both
effective and fun to use.

From: Tony Christney <tchristney@t...>

Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 10:42:23 -0700

Subject: Re: [GZG] Mercs and "Realism"

> On 19-Oct-06, at 5:58 AM, John Atkinson wrote:

Unfortunately, the human race is littered with examples of people
who will kill for just this reason - many will kill for much, much
less:(

> Having said that, these units are a stock piece in the military SF

I too prefer Falkenberg's Legion. I felt so alone for so long, John!

> Stop worrying about "realism", and put together whatever organization

I agree wholeheartedly! Except for the effective part. Fun is way more
important :-)

> John

From: Eli Arndt <emu2020@c...>

Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 21:52:49 -0700

Subject: RE: [GZG] Mercs and "Realism"

Now that TO&E has been addressed. What are some models of vehicles,
appropriate to mid-tech units?

I am considering some Old Glory 15mm BTRs with the open top and three HMGs as
a sort of wheeled version of the Slammer's gun cars. Of course for
mid-tech forces, power guns are out of the question.  For heavier
armament there is the full range of BTR vehicles then available through
various manufacturers.

From: Charles Lee <xarcht@y...>

Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 14:55:11 -0700 (PDT)

Subject: RE: [GZG] Mercs and "Realism"

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Gzg-l mailing list
Gzg-l@lists.csua.berkeley.edu
http://lists.csua.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gzg-lWhat ever minitures
that fit your write ups would be best, micromachines, hot wheels, ect.

Eli Arndt <emu2020@comcast.net> wrote: Now that TO&E has been addressed. What
are some models of vehicles,
appropriate to mid-tech units?

I am considering some Old Glory 15mm BTRs with the open top and three HMGs as
a sort of wheeled version of the Slammer's gun cars. Of course for
mid-tech forces, power guns are out of the question. For heavier
armament there is the full range of BTR vehicles then available through
various manufacturers.

From: Eli Arndt <emu2020@c...>

Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 18:55:11 -0700

Subject: RE: [GZG] Mercs and "Realism"

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Gzg-l mailing list
Gzg-l@lists.csua.berkeley.edu
http://lists.csua.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gzg-lWell, honestly, was
looking for input from the pros on whether or not this seemed in line with the
concept. I also am looking for recommendations for other minis that might work
for such things. I know there is a lot of experience out there on the list and
I'm not afraid to ask, beg, bribe it out of them.

Eli

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From: Michael Brown <mwbrown@s...>

Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 20:21:35 -0600

Subject: RE: [GZG] Mercs and "Realism"

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Gzg-l mailing list
Gzg-l@lists.csua.berkeley.edu
http://lists.csua.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gzg-lI think the BTRs
are a good “armored truck”. Take a look at French VAB wheeled APCs as well.
I find that using French and South African are good ways to make something
look SF without the expense of SF models. Most
people don’t know non-NATO/Soviet armor.

Michael Brown

mwsaber6@msn.com

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Subject: RE: [GZG] Mercs and "Realism"

Well, honestly, was looking for input from the pros on whether or not this
seemed in line with the concept. I also am looking for recommendations for
other minis that might work for such things. I know there is a lot of
experience out there on the list and I’m not afraid to ask, beg, bribe it out
of them.

Eli

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From: Eli Arndt <emu2020@c...>

Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 19:25:48 -0700

Subject: RE: [GZG] Mercs and "Realism"

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Gzg-l mailing list
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http://lists.csua.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gzg-lGerman Fuchs and
Luchs are good too as are Wiesels. BTR is a good choice because of the number
of models available. So far, VABs are only available in 4x4.

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