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E - makes my eyes bleed
LIGHT - looks right and proper, even if the gh should be pronounced like
a cat throwing up in a proper language (and this should be 'licht')
Phoenetic spelling would make things so much easier. Whoever came up with
silent haitches, apsirate Q's, and the mutation of character sounds because of
other characters largely needs to be an elision from history. One character =
1 sound and not 0 to 3 sounds!
I'd say the simple rule of thumb is: GZG = UK company Jon = English (almost
perfect, just needs to live a distance North where there are some mountains
and good uisge beatha) GZG games = created in UK Therefore, UK spelling.
Living in Canada, I've got the peculiar linguistic mangle that is Canadian
English (yes, it is distinct). We use Light and Night, Zee is not a letter
(more the sound that a balloon seeping air makes), and we also decide to
take spellings of words with -ze rather than -se at the ending. A real
hodge-podge of Americanese and The King's
Not-Spoken-In-Working-Class-England English. Throw in some token French
and some distinctly Canadian words and you've got yourself quite a sandwich.
Of course, getting a lot of our cultural products from either America or UK,
we've gotten used to reading either (although I still have to sop up the blood
after reading LITE...).
:0) TomB
> On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 3:05 PM, Tom B <kaladorn@gmail.com> wrote:
Yep. Alana chuckled at my Oxford Canadian English dictionary. (By the way,
look up "gotchies" sometime.)
Which reminds me... Remind me tonight and I'll give you the ISBN of my
Scottish-to-English dictionary, which is on the shelf beside my
Canadian English dictionary.
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> On Apr17 08, at 13:05, Tom B wrote:
> LITE - makes my eyes bleed
As there is no Academy of the English language, lite is correct if it's
meaning is clear, and if y'all want to argue I have access to an OED and am
willing to smack said objecting nits upside the head with said collection.
Now this entire conversation would be a great scenario the NAS civil war, all
over spelling.
Note, I am american who learned to speak from a Cockney Nanny, lives in
California, and
has dated and/or lived with an Australian. Thus it's all bloody
english to me.
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have a copy of the OED, you DON'T want to get hit with it!
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> On Apr17 08, at 13:05, Tom B wrote:
LITE - makes my eyes bleed
LIGHT - looks right and proper, even if the gh should be pronounced
like a cat throwing up in a proper language (and this should be 'licht')
As there is no Academy of the English language, lite is correct if it's
meaning is clear, and if y'all want to argue I have access to an OED and am
willing to smack said objecting nits upside the head with said collection.
Now this entire conversation would be a great scenario the NAS civil war, all
over spelling.
Note, I am american who learned to speak from a Cockney Nanny, lives in
California, and
has dated and/or lived with an Australian. Thus it's all bloody english
to me.
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Especially once you consider the physical condition of one capable of wielding
such a tome as a weapon.
T.
> On 17-Apr-08, at 3:53 PM, Michael wrote:
> We have a copy of the OED, you DON'T want to get hit with it!
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> On Apr17 08, at 15:53, Michael wrote:
> We have a copy of the OED, you DON'T want to get hit with it!
To be quite honest I probably wold throw my back out if I tied to smack anyone
with it..... But, it sounds good.
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rest of the world has to put up with the Americian spelling, but when they are
exposed to UK english, the Americians all start complaining, personally as a
British Australian, I have no complaints about either
form of spelling - after all I have been exposed to both sets of
spelling for so long, but it is nice to see Jon using the correct spelling for
his country.
Robyn Stott
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h but is it as bad as the two volume Macquarie *Australian* English
Dictionary. I'll take on your OED anyday. ;-)
Tony.
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> Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 4:05 PM, Tom B <kaladorn@gmail.com> wrote:
> LITE - makes my eyes bleed
You know, you're forcing me to come up with a GZG ECC scenario that is going
to involve you (directly or indirectly) and the word "lite"...
:-D
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that would amuse me from a distance... (cause I'm uk based and couldn't afford
to attend):D
Andy
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> On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 4:05 PM, Tom B <kaladorn@gmail.com> wrote:
LITE - makes my eyes bleed
LIGHT - looks right and proper, even if the gh should be pronounced like
a cat throwing up in a proper language (and this should be 'licht')
You know, you're forcing me to come up with a GZG ECC scenario that is going
to involve you (directly or indirectly) and the word "lite"...
:-D
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that would amuse me from a distance... (cause I'm uk based and couldn't afford
to attend):D
Andy
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> On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 4:05 PM, Tom B <kaladorn@gmail.com> wrote:
LITE - makes my eyes bleed
LIGHT - looks right and proper, even if the gh should be pronounced like
a cat throwing up in a proper language (and this should be 'licht')
You know, you're forcing me to come up with a GZG ECC scenario that is going
to involve you (directly or indirectly) and the word "lite"...
:-D
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think the _full_ OED runs to twenty volumes. I'd like to get a set, plus
the full current Britannica, and a full set of the 1911 Britannica...
...and then I think my wife would kill me in my sleep, and I doubt there would
be a jury who would vote to convict....
Best, Ken
Tony Wilkinson <twilko@ozemail.com.au> wrote: Yeah but is it as bad as the two
volume Macquarie Australian English Dictionary. I'll
take on your OED anyday. ;-)
Tony.
Michael wrote: We have a copy of the OED, you DON'T want to get hit with it!
Michael Brown mwsaber6@msn
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> On Apr17 08, at 13:05, Tom B wrote:
LITE - makes my eyes bleed
LIGHT - looks right and proper, even if the gh should be pronounced
like a cat throwing up in a proper language (and this should be 'licht')
As there is no Academy of the English language, lite is correct if it's
meaning is clear, and if y'all want to argue I have access to an OED and am
willing to smack said objecting nits upside the head with said collection.
Now this entire conversation would be a great scenario the NAS civil war, all
over spelling.
Note, I am american who learned to speak from a Cockney Nanny, lives in
California, and
has dated and/or lived with an Australian. Thus it's all bloody
english to me.
Evyn MacDude
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participants are free to use the information received, but neither the
identity nor the affiliation of the speaker(s), nor that of any other
participant, may be revealed"
And it has to involve dictionaries. Full Thrust Spelling Bee, anybody?
(8-)
JGH
> Indy wrote:
> going to involve you (directly or indirectly) and the word "lite"...
A friend of mine has an edition of the 'compact two volume unabridged
OED' -- the one with each book at 22" x 14", the whole thing weighs
about 40 or 50 pounds and comes with it's own bar magnifier. Whew.
JGH
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> Indy wrote:
> going to involve you (directly or indirectly) and the word "lite"...
Somebody else mentioned it.. seems like a good fun NAC polite civil war
(e.g. two NAC ship (drunk captains?:)), one of British, one of American
descent get a shooting fight over this:)
> Jerry Han wrote:
I'm lazy, OED online :) (http://www.oed.com/subscribe/) ... I write
reports for a living though and def worth the cash
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> Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 9:13 AM, Jerry Han <jhan@warpfish.com> wrote:
> A friend of mine has an edition of the 'compact two volume unabridged
My mom has that. It is the full eight volumes of the earlier edition
photographically reduced to two. Done with the same treatment, the OED2
would still need six volumes, as it would have run to twenty-three
volumes of readable type. I had thought that OED2 was one of the first
reference
books to be published in a CD-ROM format.
From: Indy <indy.kochte@gmail.com>
You know, you're forcing me to come up with a GZG ECC scenario that is going
to involve you (directly or indirectly) and the word "lite"...
==> Dude, don't even go there. I've had my soul bought and sold (and
possibly lost and/or destroyed) at ECCs past. This will be a veritable
walk in the park...
==> And a side note: After I've seen to Adrian propose to Chris from bended
knee, nothing can really scar me anymore. Even Stuart's best efforts now raise
a 'well, that seems strangely familiar' and sheep
stuff is... bah-ah-ahd but survivable. Going beyond that will take
some true imagination.
TomB
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I rarely have time to browse the miniatures page, a friend of mine
periodically forwards me links to threads he knows I have an interest in. A
recent forward was about a Full Thrust game played by some fellows who I
believe are in England.
http://theminiaturespage.com/boards/msg.mv?id=140964
The author described the rules they used as FT Lite when inquired. ;-)
Mk
I noticed that Keith and I doing a Kafer imitation at your game this year had
little effect on you.
Now I know why.
Stuart on the other hand gave us this look like we'd scarred him.
-Mark Kinsey
> Tom B wrote:
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> Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 3:11 AM, Tom B <kaladorn@gmail.com> wrote:
> From: Indy <indy.kochte@gmail.com>
<sigh> This sounded very much to me like a gauntlet being thrown down...
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s sounded very much to me like a gauntlet being thrown down...
Mk
Mark, you've done mutant monkeys, giant cybernetic death machines, light
(lite) hearted Canadian bashing, massive wars over cheese, faced off Vs Awful
Green Things,and let us not forget about (to my mind the top of list) Cthulhu
Vs very belligerent sheep.I'm very curious
about what you will come up with......The soul selling and or other forms of
loss didn't real rate my notice due to 24 years of marriage....)
Don
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To be fair, most of this should be credited to Laserlight and some others. I
did do the mutant monkeys game, yep. :-D
But that just feeds the fire, these thoughts. Hmmmm.....something is stirring
in the back of my addled brain...
Mk
> On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 9:15 AM, Don M <dmaddox1@hot.rr.com> wrote:
> This sounded very much to me like a gauntlet being thrown down...
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To be fair, most of this should be credited to Laserlight and some
others. I did do the mutant monkeys game, yep. :-D
But that just feeds the fire, these thoughts. Hmmmm.....something is stirring
in the back of my addled brain...
Mk
I should have said (done at ECC) but, even so......I think your down to
biogenetic vegetables with a beer chaser...)
Don
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> On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 9:58 AM, Don M <dmaddox1@hot.rr.com> wrote:
> To be fair, most of this should be credited to Laserlight and some
Now, the next question, will the beer be represented in FT3 or DS3 rules? Will
this be a space encounter or a dirtside action?
Mk
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, the next question, will the beer be represented in FT3 or DS3 rules? Will
this be a space encounter or a dirtside action?
Mk
Ambush of of beer tankers enroute to a Canadian colony...."In Space No One Can
Hear You Fart"
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nds like a good use for all of those new auxiliary ships.....
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Now, the next question, will the beer be represented in FT3 or DS3 rules? Will
this be a space encounter or a dirtside action?
Mk
Ambush of of beer tankers enroute to a Canadian colony...."In Space No One Can
Hear You Fart"
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nds like a good use for all of those new auxiliary ships.....
Disclaimmer...I'm not in Jons' employ....)
Don
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> M wrote:
> Ambush of beer tankers en route to a Canadian colony ...."In Space No
One Can Hear You Fart" <
Or something based on Poul Anderson's "The Makeshift Rocket" --
beer-powered spaceships? Have to use vector movement and limited fuel.
Finagle only knows what the weapons would be... <eg>
Phil -- Cheers! :-D
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> On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 3:11 AM, Tom B <kaladorn@gmail.com> wrote:
> ==> Dude, don't even go there. I've had my soul bought and sold (and
<sigh> This sounded very much to me like a gauntlet being thrown down...
Mk
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> Now, the next question, will the beer be represented in FT3 or DS3
> Ambush of of beer tankers enroute to a Canadian colony ...."In Space
If the new 'Refinery Ship' looks right, it might double as a 'beer brewery' so
the scenario could actually be an attempt to capture the brewery.
Beer wars could be an appropriate GZG theme multi-national. I'm quite
sure Americans, Canadians and British (plus sundry others...) think they have
the best beer. Of course, some like their beer tepid, others like it chilled
to disguise the fact it has no flavour, and still others think it should be
thicker than tar, etc. Plenty of factions.
And of course, you could 'pretty up' the whole thing as a NAC Civil War
scenario.
This reminds me of the 'Beer Game' of SG2 that K.R. from Geohex used to run.
Everyone went out for beer afterwards.
*cue Don Nardo voice*
And, when in Lincoln, be sure to stop at Gauntlet Games!
The_Beast
Indy wrote on 04/22/2008 07:27:02 AM:
> <sigh>
Beer wars could be an appropriate GZG theme multi-national. I'm quite
sure Americans, Canadians and British (plus sundry others...) think they have
the best beer. Of course, some like their beer tepid, others like it chilled
to disguise the fact it has no flavour, and still others think it should be
thicker than tar, etc. Plenty of factions.
And of course, you could 'pretty up' the whole thing as a NAC Civil War
scenario.
I was thinking we could just go ahead and piss off Beth too and have it as the
last beer brewery in the sector. The local Canadian and Australian police and
militia forces scramble to acquire this ship to settle domestic
dissatisfaction on their respective colonies...)
It can even be a two parter, small craft fighting over the brewery
ship....Followed by a Stargunt boarding action......
It can rapidly go down hill from there, with optional beers after...)
> From: "Don M" <dmaddox1@hot.rr.com>
I think the Refinery Ship would work perfectly for this - lots of big
round tanks on it.... in fact, I'll find a small prize for the best pics we
get sent of an FT345 painted in the colours of your favourite
beer..... ;-)
Jon (GZG)
> Beer wars could be an appropriate GZG theme multi-national. I'm quite
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> Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 2:36 PM, Ground Zero Games <jon@gzg.com> wrote:
> >From: "Don M" <dmaddox1@hot.rr.com>
What if it's a....LITE beer?
Ah well. Seeing as I don't drink, I don't have a favorite beer. :-D
Mk
> On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 02:57:43PM -0400, Indy wrote:
Then the small prize will have to be made of antimatter.
> Ah well. Seeing as I don't drink, I don't have a favorite beer. :-D
I think this is an ideal opportunity for a homebrew conversion.
R
From: Ground Zero Games <jon@gzg.com>
> If the new 'Refinery Ship' looks right, it might double as a 'beer
> I think the Refinery Ship would work perfectly for this - lots of big
So, since I'm a fan of Guiness (a stout, of course), I could get away
with a nice rich black primer? (*chuckle*) - I imagine you mean 'the
livery of your favorite beer company' or something of that sort. Of course, if
I make it a Guiness Brewery, it'll have to move slower because of the
thickness...
And Indy, I'm puzzled. Your admission that you don't drink removes from me the
one obvious cause I could think of to explain some of your games... *grin* (I
guess I have to go with narcotics or insanity now?).... *muahahahahhaa*
TomB
G'day TomB,
> So, since I'm a fan of Guiness (a stout, of course), I could get away
I have a unit of dwarves with black shields and a golden harp on the facing as
the shield logo.
Megan might have some pics of it. Please get it straight though. Stuart was
*not* participating. He was staring at Keith and I and repeatedly distancing
himself from us (both verbally and physically by moving away from us).
-Mark
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I think the Refinery Ship would work perfectly for this - lots
of big round tanks on it.... in fact, I'll find a small prize for the best
pics we get sent of an FT345 painted in the colours of your favourite
beer..... ;-)
What if it's a....LITE beer?
Ah well. Seeing as I don't drink, I don't have a favorite beer. :-D
Mk
ROOT BEER!!!!! :-)