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the subject of how many CS is in a FT mass, I thought I would post this.
The Trojan Horse assault transport is actually little different than a
standard Work Horse medium freighter; it's used to carry & deploy 7 mass ITTT
cargo pods that have been modified into large drop pods for massed planetary
assault. The cargo pods are modified into drop pods by equiping them with
partial streamlining, chemical thrusters for
pre-atmospheric entry course correction, atmospheric entry heat
shielding, atmospheric descent parachutes, pre-impact decelaration
rockets, and shock-absorbing landing gear.
How much these 7 mass drop pods can carry needs to be determined. For ease of
organization, I would like to think these large drop pods can
carry 3 platoons or 1 company of assault-rated mechanised infantry.
According to MT, 3 platoons of mechanised infantry in 4 MICVs take up 144 cs,
not counting the command platoon & their vehicles. An unmodified 7 mass cargo
pod can carry 175 cs. How much cs needs to be taken up by the drop pod
modifications? Can some of the modifications be partially externalized, like
the landing gear?
You could put 1 company into 2 drop pods, but that would run the risk of the 2
halfs being seperated during the drop. You could also organize the unit into a
"short" company, with only 2 platoons & command riding in the MICVs; deployed
with special assault weapons & equipment that would give the short company the
effective firepower of a full company.
I leave it to the list to help me with this. Later, I will post how the Trojan
Horse assault transports & their drop pods are deployed in a massed planetary
assault.
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Thanksgiving - Here's the post I promised.
Since there haven't been any comments to this subject, I assume that it is
accepted that an ITTT 7 mass cargo pod converted to a drop pod has enough cs
to carry a company of mechanized infantry & its command, at least in an
abbreviated form.
Considering that 3 companies make a battalion, and 3 battalions make a
regiment, a flotilla of 10 Trojan Horse Assault Transports carry enough
drop pods to imbed an entire trans-atmospheric assault division; That
includes 27 companies of mechanized infantry, 12 companies of mobile
artillery, 3 companies of armor, 3 companies of anti-aircraft artillery,
3 companies of combat engineers, and numerous service units, including
division command & control, intelligence, HasMat/UXO disposal, M.A.S.H.,
quartermaster, and others.
A proper flotilla for a trans-atmospheric assault division will consist
of 10 Trojan Horse Assault Transports, 3 "Galahad/Ropucha" class assault
transports, enough troop transports to carry division personnel, a hospital
ship, a combat stores ship, and perhaps an ortillery monitor converted from an
obsolete capital ship; Such as a NAC Eastwood SDN with the heavy beam
batteries swapped out for ortillery systems.
A massed planetary assault procedes as follows; A battle group consisting of
capital ships & ortillery monitors gain space superiority to planetary orbit
and begin suppressing ground & air defences with ortillery & converged sheaf
beam fire. Within one jump of the planetary
assault operation, trans-atmospheric assault troops transfer from the
troop ships to the Trojan Horse ships, gaining access to the drop pods
thru the ships' central access spine. When planetary ground/air
defences are sufficiently suppressed, the assault transports jump to
orbit and deploy the drop pods, targeting a selected landing zone/area
of operations [LZ/AO]. The pod decent is assisted by use of chaff & ECM
to disguise the drop pods number, location, & trajectory from remaining
ground/air defence. Drop ships from the "Galahad/Ropucha" classes
follow with special forces for situation-specific operations. If a
nation has multi-mode fighters, they can be used dirt-side as ersatz
combat walkers.
Now, the assault troops don't ride the drop IN the vehicles; They ride down in
ejector seats that line the walls of the pods. If pod parachutes don't fully
deploy & slow decent to less than terminal velocity at 1000 feet, the ejector
seats fire and the troops land clear of the crashing pod. That company loses
its vehicles & heavy equiptment, but the ejector seats come with light assault
weapons, communications & field supplies so that the unit can still operate as
dismounted light infantry.
Once dropped, the assault units fan out, engaging enemy ground units,
taking & holding valued objectives & approaches to the LZ/AO. When the
LZ/AO is secure enough, the combat engineers, with grating & paving
equiptment, are dropped into a central locale. Their job is to build a tarmac
that is large enough to accommodate the landing of a Stork medium freighter.
When the tarmac is built, it will be used as a bridgehead to bring in
reenforcements. Reenforcement personnel are brought in on Storks, because they
can be disenbarked quickly, while their vehicles & heavy equiptment are
brought in by cargo pods, from Roos & Fetches, from Work Horses & Huskys.
The reenforcements mount their vehicles, and relieve the assault units holding
objectives. Once relieved, the assault units withdraw to the bridgehead
tarmac. At the same time, Roos from the Trojan Horses gather up the drop pods
& take them to the bridgehead. At the bridgehead, the assault troops dismount
& board one of the Storks for transport to a division staging area, for rest &
further training. The assault vehicles are loaded back into the drop pods, the
Roos remount them on the Trojan Horses, and they are transported to a
refurbishment center, where impact & combat damage to the vehicles & pods are
repaired, the chutes repacked, deceleration rockets reloaded, and the drop
pods prepared for the next operation.
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of all, this is a cool idea and one that a buddy of mine has considered for
his forces. The only issue that I can see is that raw cargo
capacity seldom translates into safe and effective combat-ready troop
transport. To allow the units to hit the ground ready to go would require a
certain amount of spacing, bulkheading, etc. In addition the ECM, chaff, etc
is going to take space. Also, to have all your infantry spaced out and in
position for easy ejection is going to cut into your available space.
Of course this is just my opinion and I've generated one or two crazy ideas in
my time as well.
-Eli
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From: "John Brewer" <jbrewer@webtv.net>
Happy Thanksgiving - Here's the post I promised.
Since there haven't been any comments to this subject, I assume that it is
accepted that an ITTT 7 mass cargo pod converted to a drop pod has enough cs
to carry a company of mechanized infantry & its command, at least in an
abbreviated form.
Considering that 3 companies make a battalion, and 3 battalions make a
regiment, a flotilla of 10 Trojan Horse Assault Transports carry enough
drop pods to imbed an entire trans-atmospheric assault division; That
includes 27 companies of mechanized infantry, 12 companies of mobile
artillery, 3 companies of armor, 3 companies of anti-aircraft artillery,
3 companies of combat engineers, and numerous service units, including
division command & control, intelligence, HasMat/UXO disposal, M.A.S.H.,
quartermaster, and others.
A proper flotilla for a trans-atmospheric assault division will consist
of 10 Trojan Horse Assault Transports, 3 "Galahad/Ropucha" class assault
transports, enough troop transports to carry division personnel, a hospital
ship, a combat stores ship, and perhaps an ortillery monitor converted from an
obsolete capital ship; Such as a NAC Eastwood SDN with the heavy beam
batteries swapped out for ortillery systems.
A massed planetary assault procedes as follows; A battle group consisting of
capital ships & ortillery monitors gain space superiority to planetary orbit
and begin suppressing ground & air defences with ortillery & converged sheaf
beam fire. Within one jump of the planetary
assault operation, trans-atmospheric assault troops transfer from the
troop ships to the Trojan Horse ships, gaining access to the drop pods
thru the ships' central access spine. When planetary ground/air
defences are sufficiently suppressed, the assault transports jump to
orbit and deploy the drop pods, targeting a selected landing zone/area
of operations [LZ/AO]. The pod decent is assisted by use of chaff & ECM
to disguise the drop pods number, location, & trajectory from remaining
ground/air defence. Drop ships from the "Galahad/Ropucha" classes
follow with special forces for situation-specific operations. If a
nation has multi-mode fighters, they can be used dirt-side as ersatz
combat walkers.
Now, the assault troops don't ride the drop IN the vehicles; They ride down in
ejector seats that line the walls of the pods. If pod parachutes don't fully
deploy & slow decent to less than terminal velocity at 1000 feet, the ejector
seats fire and the troops land clear of the crashing pod. That company loses
its vehicles & heavy equiptment, but the ejector seats come with light assault
weapons, communications & field supplies so that the unit can still operate as
dismounted light infantry.
Once dropped, the assault units fan out, engaging enemy ground units,
taking & holding valued objectives & approaches to the LZ/AO. When the
LZ/AO is secure enough, the combat engineers, with grating & paving
equiptment, are dropped into a central locale. Their job is to build a tarmac
that is large enough to accommodate the landing of a Stork medium freighter.
When the tarmac is built, it will be used as a bridgehead to bring in
reenforcements. Reenforcement personnel are brought in on Storks, because they
can be disenbarked quickly, while their vehicles & heavy equiptment are
brought in by cargo pods, from Roos & Fetches, from Work Horses & Huskys.
The reenforcements mount their vehicles, and relieve the assault units holding
objectives. Once relieved, the assault units withdraw to the bridgehead
tarmac. At the same time, Roos from the Trojan Horses gather up the drop pods
& take them to the bridgehead. At the bridgehead, the assault troops dismount
& board one of the Storks for transport to a division staging area, for rest &
further training. The assault vehicles are loaded back into the drop pods, the
Roos remount them on the Trojan Horses, and they are transported to a
refurbishment center, where impact & combat damage to the vehicles & pods are
repaired, the chutes repacked, deceleration rockets reloaded, and the drop
pods prepared for the next operation. JBrewer@webtv.net
"Always strive to be a good person. If you can't do that, at least strive to
be someone other than an asshole."
From: John Brewer
Sent: Monday, November 5, 2007 6:15 PM
To: gzg-l@lists.csua.berkeley.edu
Subject: [GZG] [FT] [DSII] Trojan Horse Assault Transport
Since the subject of how many CS is in a FT mass, I thought I would post this.
The Trojan Horse assault transport is actually little different than a
standard Work Horse medium freighter; it's used to carry & deploy 7 mass ITTT
cargo pods that have been modified into large drop pods for massed planetary
assault. The cargo pods are modified into drop pods by equiping them with
partial streamlining, chemical thrusters for
pre-atmospheric entry course correction, atmospheric entry heat
shielding, atmospheric descent parachutes, pre-impact decelaration
rockets, and shock-absorbing landing gear.
How much these 7 mass drop pods can carry needs to be determined. For ease of
organization, I would like to think these large drop pods can
carry 3 platoons or 1 company of assault-rated mechanised infantry.
According to MT, 3 platoons of mechanised infantry in 4 MICVs take up 144 cs,
not counting the command platoon & their vehicles. An unmodified 7 mass cargo
pod can carry 175 cs. How much cs needs to be taken up by the drop pod
modifications? Can some of the modifications be partially externalized, like
the landing gear?
You could put 1 company into 2 drop pods, but that would run the risk of the 2
halfs being seperated during the drop. You could also organize the unit into a
"short" company, with only 2 platoons & command riding in the MICVs; deployed
with special assault weapons & equipment that would give the short company the
effective firepower of a full company.
I leave it to the list to help me with this. Later, I will post how the Trojan
Horse assault transports & their drop pods are deployed in a massed planetary
assault.