[GZG] [FT] Cold Navy miniatures.

17 posts ยท Jul 30 2005 to Aug 2 2005

From: Robert N Bryett <rbryett@g...>

Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 22:33:00 +1000

Subject: [GZG] [FT] Cold Navy miniatures.

I hope it's not *too* tasteless to mention someone else's minis on a GZG list,
but a friend sent me link to the Cold Navy web site, and I find their "Terran
Republic Navy" ships horribly tempting:
http://estore.xtreme-hobby.com/coldnavy.html#trn

1. Has anyone on the list seen these minis, and/or had any dealings
withe Xtreme Hobby? If so, I'd appreciate any comments please. If they're
libellous, you could send them to me privately:)

2. As well as various gun turrets, all the TRN ships above frigate class seem
to be equipped with one or more of what Col. Jack O'Neill would undoubtedly
describe as "Honkin' great space guns" mounted spinally. Any thoughts on what
these should be?

From: Doug Evans <devans@n...>

Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 08:02:35 -0500

Subject: Re: [GZG] [FT] Cold Navy miniatures.

Sorry, don't have time to do the search myself, but they've been mentioned on
the list, though I don't think all your questions answered. Give the archives
a peek.

The_Beast

From: Doug Evans <devans@n...>

Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 08:05:42 -0500

Subject: Re: [GZG] [FT] Cold Navy miniatures.

If there wasn't a post on Cold Navy just prior to my reply, please ignore my
previous. My mail client may be a little whack. I know I am.

The_Beast

From: Jon Davis <davisje@n...>

Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 09:06:25 -0400

Subject: Re: [GZG] [FT] Cold Navy miniatures.

> R. Bryett wrote:

> I hope it's not *too* tasteless to mention someone else's minis on a
Any
> thoughts on what these should be?

The GZG - East Coast Convention contacted Xtreme Hobby regarding their
figures for convention gaming prizes last year and we received a number of
samples from them. We have established a good relationship with them.

They are very nice figures, with sharp details and designs.

Front arc only Grasers would be suitable weapons for the TRN. Or a Kinetic
Gun.

From: Doug Evans <devans@n...>

Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 11:41:20 -0500

Subject: Re: [GZG] [FT] Cold Navy miniatures.

Jon Davis wrote on 07/30/2005 08:06:25 AM:

> R. Bryett wrote:

*whew* I answered, but as I hit send, I didn't see the original in the queue.
I must have hit the reply button, marked the original for delete,

then finished my reply.

Sorry, again.

The_Beast

From: Inire <inire@y...>

Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 09:50:09 -0700 (PDT)

Subject: Re: [GZG] [FT] Cold Navy miniatures.

I'm a big fan of th CN ships. I started Mauridian and now have a set of
Kharadorn as well. The Terrans are played in force by one of my friends here
in town.

Xtreme is pretty responsive to constructive crit with their minis, and have
been tireless with respect to assuring a steady pipeline to customers. Now
that they have a new, stable molding contractor and the minor
crits have been addressed the so-called Wave 1.5 shipz
are _very_ pretty.

_I_ can't wait for the Deisho release.

> --- Jon Davis <davisje@nycap.rr.com> wrote:

> R. Bryett wrote:
http://lists.csua.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gzg-l
> [quoted text omitted]

Jeff "My dice hate me!" Fearnow Gaming to keep War out of RealTime!

"'DESTROY THE WITNESSES!!. Chaffing aside, I have no answer: I Excrete Sour
Cream!" www.wigu.com, 29 Jan 2003

XT350/DOD#1890

AND don't forget: Serenity releases 30 September! Trailer at apple.com!!!
http://www.apple.com/trailers/universal/serenity

From: Jerry Han <jhan@w...>

Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 23:35:36 -0400

Subject: Re: [GZG] [FT] Cold Navy miniatures.

And, they're currently on sale right now, until July 31st. I just bought some
myself, I saw them at
GZG-ECC, and I finally got around to getting a
couple.

JGH

> Inire wrote:
http://www.apple.com/trailers/universal/serenity
> ____________________________________________________

From: Frits Kuijlman <frits@k...>

Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 10:45:46 +0200

Subject: Re: [GZG] [FT] Cold Navy miniatures.

> R. Bryett wrote:

They are very nice to deal with. They also improved quality a lot with the
wave 1.5 versions. The Mauridians were already pretty good and just got even
crisper, the bigger Terrans were pretty bad on the underside but now look
great.

They gave the wave 1.0 customers a really good deal on the wave 1.5 ships, and
I am really happy I took advantage of that deal(even better than the current
sale). I just sold off my wave 1.0 terrans on ebay and only made a slight loss
(Aside from BFG there isn't much of a market for spaceships on ebay it seems).

All in all, great service,

From: Robert N Bryett <rbryett@g...>

Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 13:39:37 +1000

Subject: [GZG] [FT] Cold Navy miniatures.

> I'm a big fan of th CN ships. I started Mauridian and now have a

The Mauridians are cool, but the Kharadorn look a bit wacky to me.

> The Terrans are played in force by one of my friends here in town.
<<<<

So what does he make the spinal mount weapons? For that matter, what do you
install in your Mauridian Ba'Rada Class Frigate (the flying assault rifle)?

I broke down and bought some TRN ships before the end of their introductory
offer (I'm so weak!), so I've been messing about with some possible designs.

I started out by looking at the pics on the Cold Navy website and deciding
that "gun turrets" with four "barrels" would be part of a Class 3 beam
battery, those with three Class 2 and two Class 1. The batteries would be made
up of one or more turret, depending on fire arcs etc.

The spinal mount "guns" on the destroyer, cruiser and battlecruiser look
similar, so I decided they should be of the same basic type, in this case
Class 3 k-guns. The spinal weapons of the Conquest look different, and a
note on the website suggests these are "particle somethings", so I went for
a massive beam battery for long range fire support :-/

BTW, the points totals given below are NPV/CPV.

Ship design worksheet for Conquest (Superdreadnought) by RNB

Item Mass Points
Basic Hull		    (201)    201
Hull Integrity (in 4 rows)     60    120
Armour			       10     20
FTL Drive		       20     40
Main Drive (Thrust 4)	       40     80
Sub-total                     130    461
FCS x 4 			4     16
PDS x 6 			6     18
ADFC				2      8
Fighter Bay x 2 	       18     54
Class 5 Batt (1 arc)	       16     48
Class 3 Batt (5 arc)		8     24
Class 2 Batt (6 arc)		3      9
Class 2 Batt (3 arc)		2      6
Class 1 Batt (6 arc) x 2	2      6
Screen generators	       10     30
Sub-total                      71    219
Total                         201    680/847

Ship design worksheet for Avatar (Battlecruiser) by RNB

Item Mass Points
Basic Hull		    (108)    108
Hull Integrity (in 4 rows)     24     48
Armour				4      8
FTL Drive		       11     22
Main Drive (Thrust 6)	       32     64
Sub-total                      71    250
FCS x 3 			3     12
PDS x 3 			3      9
ADFC				2      8
Class 3 K-gun (1 arc) x 2      10     40
Class 3 Batt (5 arc)		8     24
Class 2 Batt (3 arc)		2      6
Class 2 Batt (6 arc)		3      9
Class 1 Batt (6 arc)		1      3
Screen generators		5     15
Sub-total                      37    126
Total                         108    376/385

Ship design worksheet for Orion (Patrol Cruiser) by RNB

Item Mass Points
Basic Hull		     (63)     63
Hull Integrity (in 4 rows)     15     30
Armour				4      8
FTL Drive			6     12
Main Drive (Thrust 6)	       19     38
Sub-total                      44    151
FCS x 2 			2      8
PDS x 4 			4     12
ADFC				2      8
Class 3 K-gun (1 arc)           5     20
Class 2 Batt (6 arc) x 2	6     18
Sub-total                      19     66
Total                          63    217/194

Ship design worksheet for Massada (Heavy Destroyer) by RNB

Item Mass Points
Basic Hull		     (51)     51
Hull Integrity (in 4 rows)     14     28
Armour				4      8
FTL Drive			5     10
Main Drive (Thrust 6)	       15     30
Sub-total                      38    127
FCS x 2 			2      8
PDS				1      3
ADFC				2      8
Class 3 K-gun (1 arc)           5     20
Class 2 Batt (3 arc)		2      6
Class 1 Batt (6 arc)		1      3
Sub-total                      13     48
Total                          51    175/150

Ship design worksheet for Northampton (Frigate) by RNB

Item Mass Points
Basic Hull		     (26)     26
Hull Integrity (in 4 rows)	6     12
Armour				1      2
FTL Drive			3      6
Main Drive (Thrust 6)		8     16
Sub-total                      18     62
FCS				1      4
PDS x 4 			4     12
ADFC				2      8
Class 1 Batt (6 arc)		1      3
Sub-total                       8     27
Total                          26     89/70

The above is just a first cut for fun, and none of it is tested in any way.

From: VinsFullThrust@a...

Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 09:49:15 EDT

Subject: Re: [GZG] [FT] Cold Navy miniatures.

_______________________________________________
Gzg-l mailing list
Gzg-l@lists.csua.berkeley.edu
http://lists.csua.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gzg-lCan someone send me
a link to these Cold Navy minies please?

From: Dean Gundberg <dean.gundberg@n...>

Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2005 09:04:13 -0500

Subject: Re: [GZG] [FT] Cold Navy miniatures.

Quoting VinsFullThrust@aol.com:
> Can someone send me a link to these Cold Navy minies please?

Xtreme Hobby makes and sells the Cold Navy minis, highly recommended.

http://www.xtreme-hobby.com/

From: Indy Kochte <kochte@s...>

Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 10:04:19 -0400

Subject: Re: [GZG] [FT] Cold Navy miniatures.

> On 8/2/05, VinsFullThrust@aol.com <VinsFullThrust@aol.com> wrote:

Google is your friend.

http://www.xtreme-hobby.com/

Mk

From: damosan@c...

Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2005 15:04:04 +0000

Subject: Re: [GZG] [FT] Cold Navy miniatures.

> Xtreme Hobby makes and sells the Cold Navy minis, highly recommended.

Lemme echo Dean regarding Xtreme Hobby. I ordered some of the Pig Iron
infantry from them and they showed up fast.

From: Doug Evans <devans@n...>

Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 10:43:45 -0500

Subject: Re: [GZG] [FT] Cold Navy miniatures.

Don't forget the excellent coverage on Dean's site; not a bad first place to
look for similar questions on any new space ships:
http://www.star-ranger.com/Minis.htm#ColdNavy

Along with TMP, of course:
http://theminiaturespage.com/news/892030/

My next question is, of course, just how patient does Ninja Magic expect us to
be?

The_Beast

gzg-l-bounces@lists.csua.berkeley.edu wrote on 08/02/2005 09:04:13 AM:

> Quoting VinsFullThrust@aol.com:

From: VinsFullThrust@a...

Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 12:57:00 EDT

Subject: Re: [GZG] [FT] Cold Navy miniatures.

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http://lists.csua.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gzg-lThanks for your
responce everyone

From: Inire <inire@y...>

Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 15:02:29 -0700 (PDT)

Subject: Re: [GZG] [FT] Cold Navy miniatures.

I'll just go back to how much I like CN ships: the service from xtreme is
excellent as has been said here, they respond well to retail inquiries, and
has
also been noted, are very receptive to customer/user
input.

I don't really like the look of the Terrans, but maybe I was just turned off
by the first run (admittedly rough on the undersides, resolved with interest
in the 1.5 release).

I started with the Mauridians: I was working on a
reverse engineering project with IJSF-meets-KGuns. The
railgun spinal was perfect for the proto-kGun idea I
was playing with.

Next I grabbed Kharadorn and LOVE them. they paint up really sweet (IMO) and
are elegant to look at with a
nice-ish paintjob. I've been imagining them as the
ships of a Kra'Vak parent-race, all smooth and refined
WITH hella K-Guns ;-)

> --- Doug Evans <devans@nebraska.edu> wrote:

> Don't forget the excellent coverage on Dean's site;
http://lists.csua.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gzg-l
> [quoted text omitted]

Jeff "My dice hate me!" Fearnow Gaming to keep War out of RealTime!

"'DESTROY THE WITNESSES!!. Chaffing aside, I have no answer: I Excrete Sour
Cream!" www.wigu.com, 29 Jan 2003

XT350/DOD#1890

AND don't forget: Serenity releases 30 September! Trailer at apple.com!!!
http://www.apple.com/trailers/universal/serenity/trailer_2/index.html

From: tsarith@i...

Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 17:14:31 -0500 (CDT)

Subject: Re: [GZG] [FT] Cold Navy miniatures.

I have been running the Mauridians as Phalons and the Karadorm as Kravak. I
hvaent used the terrans yet, but I was planning on building them from
scratch, with the spinal mounts as K-guns.  Though after playing UN
lateley, I may just go with Grasers.

> On Tue, 2 Aug 2005, Inire wrote:

> I'll just go back to how much I like CN ships: the