I seem to recall something about a new style fighter base from GZG, is this
correct or have I lost the last few bits of my mind?
If it is true what are the changes and are they available from Geohex? I just
realized that I don't have enough fighter miniatures (we tend to use cardboard
markers) to support the FSE CV I am finishing up. When you add in the fact
that I have the carrier version of the BDN, the BDN, the SDN, 3 modified
trieste carriers and the modified Jerez Carrier I am a bit light on fighter
squadrons.
I had a simlar problem, basicly I wanted to have a wide variety of fighters
and mounting 6 to a base would get expensive for the numbers I was looking at
(ie six plus stands per variety). I took a hint from one of the FT books which
shows fighters mounted one per base, the base holds a d6 to show the number of
fighters.
I used Sculpie, modeling clay you can bake to harden, and shaped my base
around a d6. I then mounted a washer to the bottom of the base for stabiltiy.
A single fighter sits atop a brass rod which is afixed to the base. Certainly
not as impressive as the Geo Hex 6 fighter base, but it serves my purposes.
really bad ASCII graphics below.
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Roger Books <books@mail.state.fl.us> on 06/13/2000 10:17:09 AM
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Subject: GZG Fighter bases
I seem to recall something about a new style fighter base from GZG, is this
correct or have I lost the last few bits of my mind?
If it is true what are the changes and are they available from Geohex? I just
realized that I don't have enough fighter miniatures (we tend to use cardboard
markers) to support the FSE CV I am finishing up. When you add in the fact
that I have the carrier version of the BDN, the BDN, the SDN, 3 modified
trieste carriers and the modified Jerez Carrier I am a bit light on fighter
squadrons.
Roger
I go even cheaper and use a plastic post on top of a penny to mount my
fighers. Then I use a pair of 5mm dice to indicate number and enduance.
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Brian Bell bkb@beol.net
http://members.xoom.com/rlyehable/ft/
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> -----Original Message-----
> I seem to recall something about a new style fighter base
Yes, we now do a cast metal hex base (about an inch across) with a
depression for a small die or counter, and six cast-in holes to take
short wire lengths (wire not supplied) to put the fighters on. They are 0.75
UKP each (they're quite thick and heavy). They need a little work to mount the
wires and fighters, but look very effective if you use different wire lengths
to put the fighters at different heights.
I'm pretty sure I put some masters into the last package to GeoHex - but
if
I didn't - KR, can you let me know??
> If it is true what are the changes and are they available
> Yes, we now do a cast metal hex base (about an inch across) with a
They're also nice if you like to visually represent your fighter numbers
without dice. I put some felt on the bottom and drilled out the holes so I can
add and remove fighters (glued to bits of wire) at will. It significantly
reduces the number of bases I need for fighters, and makes them easier to
store.
The downside is that I have to paint up more fighters than the static
1-3
per base method, but I don't mind that so much.
Tom
Hehe, I use bases from the Evil Empire (GW) and mount 1 fighter per base with
a small piece of wire on the back of the base to hold small beads representing
fighters. When the fighters die, pull off the correct number of beads. It also
allows me to use different colored beads to represent different types of
fighters, so there's no confusion about which is which. I'm thinking I may add
another rod to represent CEF as well, although my fighters have a tendency not
to survive long enough to worry about it:)
Mark
> Thomas Pope wrote:
> On 13-Jun-00 at 16:17, Mark Reindl (mreindl@pacbell.net) wrote:
I was thinking about using the wire with beads for CEF since it could range up
to 9. For fighters I was looking at using the earing clips suggested here,
that way I can have a dozen or so bases and as many fighters as I can
superglue and paint clips on.
> I was thinking about using the wire with beads for CEF since it could
Another (admittedly more expensive) option is to use a tiny d8. They are
available, but I've only seen them in mixed sets. But they are about the right
size to fit where the small d6 fits on the base.
> For fighters I was looking at using the earing clips
I just drilled holes partially through the fighters and glued bits of steel
wire, which seems to work fine. They're sturdy enough to have survived
multiple uses. (adding and removing from bases)
Tom
> Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 16:21:54 -0400 (EDT)
[snip]
> I was thinking about using the wire with beads for CEF since it could
i use a 2"x2"x1/4" wood block, painted black with 6 holes. when a
figther 'buys it', remove the wire and (glued) fighter. easy to store too.
i definitely like the idea of an extra wire with beads for CEF. i'll try it!
dave
> On 13 Jun 00, at 19:18, Ground Zero Games wrote:
> Yes, we now do a cast metal hex base (about an inch across)
I haven't seen 'em, they must not have made the trip since everything else is
fine.
We are working on a redesign of the fighter base in use
here. Small raised areas on a 1 1/2" diameter base to
hold the fighters and a place for a die or two at the back (the space will
accomadate one 10mm or the two fives mentioned previously). I've always been
against the wires, (sorry Jon, but I've based over a hundred of the buggers
now and I've glued my LAST fighter to a wire!!) but when I desperately needed
bases I accepted the design made by Marty at Simtac. The redesigned raised
areas will be either truncated pyramids or cones, three short ones in front
and three taller ones in the back. The base will have a marked area to show
field of fire. Nothing has been carved as yet so if the field has any
suggestions...?
KR, Geo-Hex
> On 14-Jun-00 at 14:17, krs@geohex.com (krs@geohex.com) wrote:
Is this going to be used with something other than FT? Fields of fire aren't
necessary for FT.
I like the B5 fleet action fighter bases, but it looks like the fighters need
to be designed for them.
I don't like the reworked (old style) GZG fighter bases. I came up with
something I like better but cutting 12 pieces of brass, glueing 6 to a piece
of flat brass with a homemade jig and 6 to the fighter, along with a bead wire
then painting everything turned out to be a major hassle.
Now, if you designed your base with a hole and notch for 1 wire for tracking
endurance would make it much easier, beads are cheap and easy.
I would agree with a previous comment on base design.
The nicest base (by which I mean least hassle in play) was a small washer or
slug with 3 posts on it (about 1-1/12" long). On the first post was
glued 1 fighter. On the 2nd post beads were used to count fighters. The 3rd
post
held beads to count endurance. Beads seem to work better than micro-dice
(which I now use).
However, I do not know if it would be worth the price to manufacture these.
Sell 4 fighters and 4 bases?
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Brian Bell bkb@beol.net
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> -----Original Message-----
> In a message dated 6/14/2000 4:37:25 AM, you wrote:
<<I just drilled holes partially through the fighters and glued bits of steel
wire, which seems to work fine. They're sturdy enough to have survived
multiple uses. (adding and removing from bases)>>
How do you attach the wires to the base then? Jed