[GZG] [DS2] design rules versus miniatures was Re: Gzg-l Digest, Vol 13, Issue 36

Okay, looking at the design rules versus the GZG miniatures...

First I assume that DSM-139, AT-71 Hound Dog Infantry
Walkers means that these are supposed to represent class 1 vehicles (page 14)
in size.

Soooo, a class 5 (Very Large) vehicle should be able
to have a WPN-5 (whatever type for 15 cap. points,) an
LAD for 2 cap. ponts and 8 cargo cap. points. This should take 1 class 1
vehicle at 8 cap. points per class for transport space. In other words, one
class 1 Infantry walker.

Sooo, I use the EUREKA OUDF GRAV Tank (EM-1 IN
Catalog) as a small Class 5 with the description above
( FGP, MDC-5, GEV) for the 'bad guy' UNSC force I have
designed to play 'referee' for the completed NPC
(Native People's Circle,) LLAR-LIRA (the alternate
history on the web,) the IC, and PHR (People's Holy Republic) forces.

Matching these vehicles to the Hound Dogs makes me think "No way they could
carry these."

Since I use the Brigade Models figure in much off my forces as class 1 through
class 4 I see where I need to increase the size of my vehicles substantially
for class 5 to accommodate these Infantry walkers or go to a different set of
guidelines for walkers and class values.

I see the Reviresco Days of Empire Tiger XII tanks as large as or slightly
large then the Eureka tanks but they also seem to lack the space needed. The
even larger Reviresco U.E.S. Marauder tanks also seem too small for the class
1 infantry walkers to be carried.
Maybe it's the walker figures that need re-sizing in
my games. Maybe the Battletech Power Armor figures should be Class 1 (that
looks better) and the Hound
Dog more like a class-2 or class-3 (oops, need house
rules here - maybe something like Jeremy Olsen's
Advanced Walker/Mech Rules for Dirtside 2; except they
class GZG  Infantry walkers in class 1 {between 1/4"
and 5/8" tall.} )

So, what's the 'solution'?

Ignore the figure apparent size?

Use the GZG Infantry Walkers as Combat Walkers?

Find something even bigger then the 2 1/8" x 1 5/16" x
5/8" to top of hull [ 3/4 " to top of forward limited
traverse turret; 1 " to top of upper - command
cabin/Missile launcher - turret] Marauder?

Something (please elaborate) else?

Gracias,

I would either make the Hound Dog size 2, or ignore it. For what it's worth, I
have a couple of Reversco Tiger XIIs (regunned with OGRE main battery barrels)
and I use them as a Class 4 assualt tank. For class 5, I would use some of
those larger battletech tanks, or an OGRE Mk I.

I haven't actually seen a Hound Dog up close and personal, so I'm not sure
what to recommend specifically for that model. I have some old Games Workshop
Imperial Guard robots that I'm converting into Class I infantry

walkers. Then again, I don't plan to carry them in tanks.;)

John

--On Monday, May 29, 2006 7:59 PM -0700 Glenn Wilson
<warbeads@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Okay, looking at the design rules versus the GZG