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Happy new year all,
Ah the most wonderful time of the year, when parents do all the admin and I
can actually do some painting! I bought some more AFVs from The Baggage Train.
Still not easy to assemble, but they are starting to look really nice:
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/richardkirke/Wargaming/Stargrunt/25
%20mm%20Walker%20The%20Baggage%20Train/ChristmasPainting.jpg
So, what have you been painting over the holiday season?
Richard
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http://mail.csua.berkeley.edu:8080/mailman/listinfo/gzg-lOn 05/01/2011
> 11:50, Richard Kirke wrote:
Not so much what /have /I been painting as what /am /I going to paint
now that the holidays are over, time, space and weather permitting.
Basically, lotsa starships. <g>
I have a neoBSG Colonial Fleet to finish by painting half-a-dozen
escorts, and a matching Cylon fleet to paint -- plus, of course, a
zillion fighters to go with the ships. Then there's the "retro" fleet,
designed in a similar style to the famous SSC /Leif Ericson/, which I'm
painting up as a Second Empire of Man Imperial fleet (kinda emulating
Niven and Pournelle, who turned the LE into INSS /MacArthur/ -- and yes,
I have an /Old Mac/, plus Jack Cargill's /Patton/); still working out
how to build a Lenin in scale, though -- think I can use model rocket
parts for the nose and main hull, but the tail is a bit more difficult.
And then there's the odds and sods I have and/or pick up; for instance,
I'm getting a Spartan Games Gas Mining Vessel, which ought to go very
well with the GZG Refinery Ship; combine them both with a scratch-built
bulk carrier/colony ship that I have, and they might make a neat target
for a scenario involving pirates or commerce raiders... but I gotta build and
paint them first.
So, as usual, more metal/resin than one can deal with, but that's
(gaming) life, isn't it? <g>
Phil
Sounds like someone has been buying from the same vendors as moi... ;->=
Fortunately, as I've never liked anything I've painted in the last 30-35
years, and basically given up on the same, I'm delighted I've found a local
vacchead who is down with 'I'll paint up fleets if you buy the ships...'
;->=
The_Beast
Phillip Atcliffe wrote on 01/08/2011 08:42:26 AM:
> On 05/01/2011 11:50, Richard Kirke wrote:
Not so much what have I been painting as what am I going to paint now that the
holidays are over, time, space and weather permitting.
Basically, lotsa starships. <g>
*snippage*
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Atclilffe said: "Then there's the "retro" fleet,
designed in a similar style to the famous SSC /Leif Ericson/, which I'm
painting up as a Second Empire of Man Imperial fleet (kinda emulating
Niven and Pournelle, who turned the LE into INSS /MacArthur/ -- and yes,
I have an /Old Mac/, plus Jack Cargill's /Patton/); still working out
how to build a Lenin in scale, though -- think I can use model rocket
parts for the nose and main hull, but the tail is a bit more difficult."
Phil - Can I buy a vowel? Care to help me out with a reference to some
particular books or a TV series? Where's this Lief Ericson (not the explorer
from age of dragonboats one assume) come from, or whatever an 'Old Mac' is, or
the 'Patton' which I assume is not the corpse of a very dead general with a
rocket bolted on....?
I mean it's not like these are as familiar to me as the Liberator, the
Millenium Falcon, or the Hot Needle of Inquiry.....
> On Sun, Jan 09, 2011 at 01:29:54PM -0500, Tom B wrote:
> Phil - Can I buy a vowel? Care to help me out with a reference to some
is,
> or the 'Patton' which I assume is not the corpse of a very dead general
Niven and Pournelle were inspired, when writing _The Mote in God's Eye_,
by a plastic model kit - they write of how they allowed the ship design
to determine things about the way the universe worked.
http://www.projectrho.com/SSC/model.html has various pictures and the
Niven/Pournelle description.
R
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http://mail.csua.berkeley.edu:8080/mailman/listinfo/gzg-lOn 09/01/2011
> 18:29, Tom B wrote:
Sure. We're even having a half-price sale on Y this week -- or W if
you're into Welsh. :-)
> Care to help me out with a reference to some particular books or a TV
> 'Patton' which I assume is not the corpse of a very dead general with
The SSC/Leif Ericson/ was a design by Matt Jeffries which AMT released
as a model kit in 1968 or thereabouts, in an attempt to build on the
success of their /Star Tre/k kits with a range of their own. Didn't seem
to work, as only the first kit (the LE) was ever released, though they
reissued it years later as an "Interplanetary UFO" in glow-in-the-dark
plastic, and Round 2 Models have very recently re-released that version.
For details, pictures, etc., look at Winchell Chung's site here:
http://www.projectrho.com/SSC/model.html
A few years later, Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle were writing /The
Mote in God's Eye/, set in Pournelle's CoDominium future history in the
era of the Second Empire of Man, and they decided to use the LE as the
basis of the heroes' ship, the INSS /MacArthur/ (aka the "Old Mac"), a
General-class Battlecruiser. Rick Sternbach did a cover painting for the
book showing a modified version of the Lief as the MacArthur, which you can
also find on Winchell's site. In the book, the Mac's XO is Jack
Cargill, who is eventually promoted to Captain of the INSS /Patton/,
which is presumably a sister ship of the Mac.
Recently, a gamer and sculptor by the name of Velbor has come up with several
ships of similar design as the LE, and they are available in resin from
Ravenstar Studios. Again, you can see pictures of some of them on the above
webpage. I'm collecting an Imperial fleet made up of these and the Cozmo resin
models (yet again see the above link), and have written some special rules to
simulate the nature of space combat in the CD universe. The biggest ship of
all in such a fleet, a
President-class BB, will have to be scratchbuilt as we know from the
authors that it's basically cylindrical, hence my comments last time about
using model rocket parts.
> I mean it's not like these are as familiar to me as the Liberator, the
> Millenium Falcon, or the Hot Needle of Inquiry.....
Maybe not to you, Tom, but the SSC and the Leif have a devoted coterie of
followers on places like starshipmodeller.com. Some people might find
HNoI a bit obscure.... 8-) (I named my SFB Kzinti SCS that after the
original...)
Phil
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http://mail.csua.berkeley.edu:8080/mailman/listinfo/gzg-lOn Sun, Jan 9,
2011 at 1:13 PM, Phillip Atcliffe <atcliffe@ntlworld.com>wrote:
> Maybe not to you, Tom, but the SSC and the Leif have a devoted coterie
I'm glad this came up. Big time nostalgia for me. I had the AMT
"Interplanetary UFO" model kit, complete with the little ship inside the
hangar bay, which was also formed of glow-in-the-dark plastic.
I had no idea it began life as a different kit.
--
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2011 at 5:08 PM, Allan Goodall <agoodall@hyperbear.com>wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 1:13 PM, Phillip Atcliffe
Likewise until I saw Winchell's post on FB. I still have my Interplanetary UFO
model, although it has seen better (and cleaner) days. The scout ship is
actually sitting on my desk not 2' from me. :-D The mothership is down
in
the basement with the rest of my gaming/modeling stuff.
Mk
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> 22:39, Indy wrote:
...which may mean that neither of you are aware that there are supposed to be
engine pieces inside the side fairings, because AMT left them out
of the UFO re-issue, as did Round 2 from the recent re-release. It's not
a very good place to have any sort of reaction engine, since the exhaust
has to go over the aft part of the wing root, but that's where Jeffries put
them. As a former Harrier engineer, it makes my skin crawl at the
thought of the acoustic fatigue on the aft hull... ;-)
The original kit pieces were sort of rotors made in transparent red plastic
with a chrome centrepiece that attached to the hull; they were
transparent so that they could have light bulbs inside like the /Star
Trek/ kits (/Enterprise /and D-7), though the battery case was in the
base of the stand rather than in the ship itself. Or that's what you were
supposed to do; I put the batteries in the hull, hidden from view by the
landing bay which I didn't glue into place and cobbled up a support structure
for to keep it and the bay doors in position when I didn't need to get at the
connections. Worked well enough. Unfortunately, I had to leave that model
behind when I moved to the UK.
Federation models have replacement engine parts for sale, though they're
solid resin rather than transparent plastic. I have a set that I'm going
to use with the Round 2 kit, but as I want to build it as the Old Mac, I'm
thinking about how to make a better engine arrangement; I want to extend the
side engine fairings back along the hull to beyond the trailing edge of the
wing, but I'm still working out how. Oh well, that's half the fun of changing
a model...
Phil