[GZG] Bondage

12 posts ยท Nov 18 2008 to Nov 19 2008

From: Hudak, Michael <mihudak@s...>

Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 09:00:58 -0500

Subject: [GZG] Bondage

Hi everyone,

I'm trying my hand at making some flight bases over the winter this year. So
far, I've got the post (square brass rod) and the base (fender washer). The
post fits snugly in the base, with all four corners touching the rim of the
inner hole.

My question is, what should I use to bond the brass to the steel?

I'm going to try solder... Fills in the gaps and should hold well enough. Is
this the right way to go? Should I be looking at superglue or epoxies instead?

Any ideas/opinions welcome.

Thanks.

From: Frits Kuijlman <frits@k...>

Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 15:19:20 +0100

Subject: Re: [GZG] Bondage

Phew:-) My first thought seeing the subject header was 'black leather'?

From: Hudak, Michael <mihudak@s...>

Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 09:36:02 -0500

Subject: Re: [GZG] Bondage

Well, I figured it would get people's attention......  :-)

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From: Ryan Gill <rmgill@m...>

Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 09:59:30 -0500

Subject: Re: [GZG] Bondage

> At 3:19 PM +0100 11/18/08, Frits Kuijlman wrote:

Well, there ARE the GZG gentleman's collectables figures.

You could properly addorn that one building in the red light district of your
15mm town.

"1st Section, you chaps secure the brothel, 2nd Section will secure the
Bar!"

From: Indy Kochte <kochte@s...>

Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 10:24:05 -0500

Subject: Re: [GZG] Bondage

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> Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 9:59 AM, Ryan Gill <rmgill@mindspring.com> wrote:

> At 3:19 PM +0100 11/18/08, Frits Kuijlman wrote:

Aren't the GC figs 25mm? Little big for the 15mm boys...  ;-)

Mk

From: Robert Mayberry <robert.mayberry@g...>

Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 19:24:08 -0500

Subject: Re: [GZG] Bondage

"I do not envy you the headache you will have when you awake. But for now,
rest well and dream of large women."

Inevitable Princess Bride quote.

> On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 10:24 AM, Indy <indy.kochte@gmail.com> wrote:
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> At 3:19 PM +0100 11/18/08, Frits Kuijlman wrote:

From: Martin Connell <mxconnell@o...>

Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 20:50:07 -0500

Subject: Re: [GZG] Bondage

Hi Mike,

I'll try and really answer your question.

Best way to attach steel to brass is with leather straps - DOH! - I
couldn't help myself.

Actually, soldering won't work. The solder will adhere to the brass but not to
the steel washer, and if it is a galvanised washer there is a remote
possiblility it will release some nasty fumes (as in poisoness). I know the
fumes are released when galvanized steel is welded, I doubt soldering gets hot
enough, but why take a chance?

Super glues work best under tension and poorly under shear. So if the tube is
crazy glued and then gets knocked, the tube surface will be in shear with the
hole surface and the bond is likly to break. You could use a thick superglue
and probably be ok if you make a little fillet (bead around the base of the
tube). Clean the washer with alcohol to remove any oil residue from
manuafacturing. Don't use any super glue accelerators as that they make the
bond brittle.

That said, your best bet is epoxy. For this type of bond, 5 minute will work
but I'd look for J.B.Weld, found in most hardware and auto sections. It is the
nastiest, grippiest, epoxy I have worked with that is readily available. Clean
the parts with alcohol so you are sure it is free of redidue. Mix up the JB
and get a liitle in the hole. Once the tube and the washer are together, get a
little bead of epoxy around the base. While wearing a rubber glove (ooooh,
rubber!) wet a glove covered finger with alcohol and smooth the bead into a
nicely radiused fillet. You can clean any epoxy smudges off with alcohol and a
piece of paper towel. When that's hardened, you will have a flight stand that
you can drop on the floor and the bond is not going to give!

Party on, Martin

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From: Mike Stanczyk <stanczyk@p...>

Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 19:45:03 -0700 (MST)

Subject: Re: [GZG] Bondage

> On Tue, 18 Nov 2008, Frits Kuijlman wrote:

> Phew:-) My first thought seeing the subject header was 'black

My first thought was: Luke: What's in there? Yoda: Only what you take with
you.

My second thought was:
Ha!  Never a dull thread around here.  ;-)

From: Ground Zero Games <jon@g...>

Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 07:52:46 +0000

Subject: Re: [GZG] Bondage

> Hi Mike,

I'd go with both - Superglue to quickly fix it in place initially and
hold it there, then backfill with epoxy for the final strength.
Or you could use the leather straps if you prefer.....  ;-)

Jon (GZG)

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From: Ground Zero Games <jon@g...>

Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 08:16:23 +0000

Subject: Re: [GZG] Bondage

> "I do not envy you the headache you will have when you awake. But for
wrote:
> At 3:19 PM +0100 11/18/08, Frits Kuijlman wrote:

I think the intent was as a statue to decorate the building itself....?

Got to advertise their wares* somehow.

Jon (GZG)

* must get that spellchecker fixed.....  ;-)

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From: Indy Kochte <kochte@s...>

Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 06:47:00 -0500

Subject: Re: [GZG] Bondage

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Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 7:24 PM, Robert Mayberry
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> "I do not envy you the headache you will have when you awake. But for

Excellent quote!

> Inevitable Princess Bride quote.
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From: JAMES BUTLER <JAMESBUTLER@w...>

Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 09:34:24 -0800 (PST)

Subject: Re: [GZG] Bondage

> "I do not envy you the headache you will have when you

     "DEATH BY SNU-SNU!!"