From: Michael Brown <mwbrown@s...>
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 15:25:00 -0600
Subject: [GZG] A Sad Day
_______________________________________________ Gzg-l mailing list Gzg-l@mail.csua.berkeley.edu http://mail.csua.berkeley.edu:8080/mailman/listinfo/gzg-l http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-13137674 Elizabeth Sladen, Sarah Jane from Doctor Who has died at 63 Michael Brown mwsaber6@msn.com
From: Seamus <fomorianwolf@g...>
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 15:59:31 -0400
Subject: Re: [GZG] A Sad Day
_______________________________________________ Gzg-l mailing list Gzg-l@mail.csua.berkeley.edu http://mail.csua.berkeley.edu:8080/mailman/listinfo/gzg-lA sad day, indeed. Is it me, or are they dropping like flies? > On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 5:25 PM, Michael Brown <mwsaber6@msn.com> wrote: > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-13137674
From: Brian Bell <bkb@b...>
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 23:24:34 -0400
Subject: Re: [GZG] A Sad Day
_______________________________________________ Gzg-l mailing list Gzg-l@mail.csua.berkeley.edu http://mail.csua.berkeley.edu:8080/mailman/listinfo/gzg-lYes, a very sad day. -Bri > On 4/20/2011 3:59 PM, Seamus wrote:
From: Tom B <kaladorn@g...>
Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2011 15:33:32 -0400
Subject: [GZG] A Sad Day
_______________________________________________ Gzg-l mailing list Gzg-l@mail.csua.berkeley.edu http://mail.csua.berkeley.edu:8080/mailman/listinfo/gzg-lIt is a sad day as I like Sarah Jane Smith. On the other hand Leela of the sevateam (Survey Team) was his best sidekick. She was attractive *and* dangerous. -- Only solitary men know the full joys of friendship. Others have their family; but to a solitary and an exile, his friends are everything.* *-- Willa Cather (1873 - 1947)Solitudinem fecerunt, pacem appelunt -- Publius Cornelius Tacitus (from the book Agricola, attributed to a speech from Calgacus)
From: Phillip Atcliffe <Phillip.Atcliffe@u...>
Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2011 21:56:30 +0100
Subject: Re: [GZG] A Sad Day
_______________________________________________ Gzg-l mailing list Gzg-l@mail.csua.berkeley.edu http://mail.csua.berkeley.edu:8080/mailman/listinfo/gzg-lOn 22/04/2011 > 20:33, Tom B wrote: > the sevateam (Survey Team) was his best sidekick. She was attractive To each their own, /chacun a son gout/, YMMV... Everyone has their own favourite companion(s). In the original series, mine was always Ace; gotta love a girl who brews her own explosives and does over Daleks with a baseball bat <g>. In fact, I reckon that should be the qualifying standard for a companion: can you see this person whacking a Dalek with a blunt implement? Post-reboot, they've all been pretty good, though subject to the incredible vagaries of RTD's writing (okay, not Amy, but the others). How the man could write utter dreck one week and fantastic, intense drama the next is almost beyond me... Meantime, farewell Lis Sladen and Sarah Jane Smith, and thanks for all the fun we had watching you. Phil
From: Peter C <petrov_101@h...>
Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2011 06:20:33 +0800
Subject: Re: [GZG] A Sad Day
_______________________________________________ Gzg-l mailing list Gzg-l@mail.csua.berkeley.edu http://mail.csua.berkeley.edu:8080/mailman/listinfo/gzg-lI'm not entirely sure Elizabeth Sladens passing is cause for a "who's the best companion" argument. But if it is then I vote for K9. Sent from my iPhone > On 23/04/2011, at 3:33 AM, Tom B <kaladorn@gmail.com> wrote: > It is a sad day as I like Sarah Jane Smith. On the other hand Leela of
From: Tom B <kaladorn@g...>
Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2011 18:47:46 -0400
Subject: Re: [GZG] A Sad Day
_______________________________________________ Gzg-l mailing list Gzg-l@mail.csua.berkeley.edu http://mail.csua.berkeley.edu:8080/mailman/listinfo/gzg-lYes, Ace was good. And I think I agree with your criteria. Being able to disable a hostile alien in some fashion would be an appropriate minimum for a companion. As to whether the passing of Lis Sladen is an excuse for a 'best companion' argument, when has this list ever required an actual excuse for a fun argument? I disqualify K-9 because his presence didn't prevent another companion of the fleshy sort from being present. (Leela and K-9 were with him at the same time). K-9 is great, but I'm going to call him the 'pet' (he did call the Doctor 'master'). Most of the time, having one fleshy companion was all the doctor got. If he got two, then the second was a rather gormless tool like Adric.
From: Samuel Penn <sam@b...>
Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2011 10:35:50 +0100
Subject: Re: [GZG] A Sad Day
> Tom B <kaladorn@gmail.com> wrote: Ace's competence suffered from poor SFX[1] and the fact that the series had to be children friendly (taking out what was effectively an ultra-tech heavily armed and armoured tank, with a baseball bat[2] was just silly). The 'New Adventures' series which was published after the TV series ended, and which was written by adult fans for other adult fans really turned Ace into a seriously competent veteran of the Dalek Wars. > I disqualify K-9 because his presence didn't prevent another companion I liked Romana (II) - the Doctor's intellectual equivalent. > Most of the time, having one fleshy companion was all the doctor got. If he > got two, then the second was a rather gormless tool like Adric. There was Tegan and Nyssa around the same time, and neither were particularly gormless if I recall. The first Doctor started with 3 companions... [1] I include quality of stunts/fights/action in this. [2] Yes, it had been 'magicked' previously, but see [1].