[GZG] 25mm/28mm Sci-fi vehicles

6 posts ยท Feb 21 2008 to Feb 22 2008

From: Chen-Song Qin <cqin@e...>

Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 14:14:54 -0700 (MST)

Subject: [GZG] 25mm/28mm Sci-fi vehicles

All this talk about various makers of 25 mm vehicles has brought up a
question. It seems all of the makers we're talking about make things in resin.
Does anyone know of a company that makes plastic science fiction
vehicle model kits in this scale?  i.e. 25 mm, 28 mm, 1/48, 1/56?  Well,
other than the obvious Company That Shall Not Be Named. Or is the
up-front cost of making plastic molds so expensive that small companies
can't manage at all?

From: Allan Goodall <agoodall@a...>

Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:04:34 -0600

Subject: Re: [GZG] 25mm/28mm Sci-fi vehicles

> On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 3:14 PM, <cqin@ece.ualberta.ca> wrote:

There's your answer.

I remember a decade ago hearing numbers like $10K for a steel mould for
plastic injection. It holds up a lot longer than any mold used for metal or
resin, allowing you to do huge production runs, but it's just too expensive
for limited runs.

From: Ground Zero Games <jon@g...>

Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 23:13:53 +0000

Subject: Re: [GZG] 25mm/28mm Sci-fi vehicles

> All this talk about various makers of 25 mm vehicles has brought up a
Well,
> other than the obvious Company That Shall Not Be Named. Or is the

Basically, yes. Tooling up for injection moulding costs thousands, if
not tens of thousands (at least it used to if done locally - not sure
what the Chinese are offering to do it for at the moment....). GW does it
because they have the funds, and they know they are going to sell in huge
numbers. Mongoose do (did?) it and it seems to have rather bitten them in the
arse. Very few others (certainly not me!) have the capital to lay out on it.
You can do resin in silicone moulds in the garden shed, or even on
the kitchen table if the wife doesn't mind.  ;-)

From: Evyn MacDude <infojunky@c...>

Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 00:28:11 -0000

Subject: Re: [GZG] 25mm/28mm Sci-fi vehicles

> On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 21:14:54 -0000, <cqin@ece.ualberta.ca> wrote:

> Or is the

Yes, by lots. The average cost of a die in the size and complexity of your
average scale model can easily $50,000 to $100,000 per die. Pennies per shot,
but the startup costs are killer.

From: Michael Brown <mwbrown@s...>

Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:30:28 -0700

Subject: Re: [GZG] 25mm/28mm Sci-fi vehicles

IIRC the upfront cost is in the 10's of 1,000 with individual injection molds
in the 1,000s as well.

Michael Brown mwsaber6@msn.com

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From: james mitchell <tagalong@s...>

Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:33:43 +1030

Subject: Re: [GZG] 25mm/28mm Sci-fi vehicles

Well after 3 decades of gaming I can say fad's and good rules sell figure's as
well as sexy lead porn photo's of painted kit. It will be interesting to see
if the new terminator movies and a current

series, will see a terminator rule set a figure release, mongoose may have
done this, but what don't kill them will make them stronger I hope.

Perhaps we should run a 25mm vehicle sculpt comp of a revamped older model,
the winner get's a small number as a prise and Jon only has to mould and cast
the thing. and we get some new models.

regards james Only 3000 25mm left to paint, wait new period, 3150, mitchell

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