> John M. Atkinson wrote:
> > BTW, the "long-ranged buzzbombs" and "GSM/P" are likely to be one
Not me. While I haven't handled neither Dragon nor TOW, I have seen the specs
for the MoD's LAW contest. If they get what they've specified, the
LAW will be basically what DSII calls a "GSM/P" - the only differences
are that the LAW is one-shot (somewhat heavier and more expensive than
today's buzzbombs like the Bofors AT4), and it is supposed to reliably
penetrate an MBT on a hit from any aspect. A GSM/P with its base impact
of 1D12 isn't that likely to do against level-3 or better armour.
I'm not sure if any of the competitors will manage to meet the MoD's
specs now - ie, within the next two years. I am sure that at least one
of them will get pretty damn close, and given a century or two to reduce
weight and cost of the thing further still I'm fairly certain that it
will replace the unguided IAVR entirely - except possibly for *very*
low-tech and poor armies (eg, Hell's Angles :-/ ).
Regards,
> Oerjan Ohlson wrote:
> Not me. While I haven't handled neither Dragon nor TOW, I have seen
Sounds interesting--I take it this is Swedish MoD, and hence will likely
be Bofors project? Are there any details on this proposal on the web anywhere?
> John M. Atkinson wrote:
[LAW discussion snipped]
> Sounds interesting--I take it this is Swedish MoD,
False assumption. Quoting my earlier post:
'BTW, the "long-ranged buzzbombs" and "GSM/P" are likely to be one and
the same in a few years time, at least if the British MoD gets what they want
in the current LAW "contest" '.
It seems you didn't read the post very carefully before launching your
description of what is and what isn't various types of GSM/x :-)
I should've written 'the current NLAW "contest" ', though - we're a bit
lazy at work and usually drop the inital N :-)
FMV (the Swedish Bureau of Defence Equipment, or something like that) is of
course interested in what we're doing, but so far the money value of that
interest has been very low.
> and hence will likely be Bofors project?
Bofors is one of (AFAIK) three competitors, with the MBT-LAW.
The other two entries (that I know of) are the Panzerfaust 3 (or a
refinement thereof) and the Kestral (possibly a typo for Kestrel - JDW
isn't that good at proofreading...) which is a advanced variant of the
Predator. I don't recall the names of the companies which make them -
that's something for the Sales people to keep track of, not us Internal
Ballistics guys :-)
> Are there any details on this proposal on the web anywhere?
I couldn't find any, but I didn't have much time to look. If you have access
to Jane's Defence Weekly there are notes on this in the 7th Oct.
-98 and 2nd Dec. -98 issues (and there ought to be others as well,
probably late -97 or thereabout but I haven't dug through our archive
:-/). Not sure how good the JDW Online is, but they may be there as
well. Too bad you have to be a subscriber to the electronic version to see it
-
we only have the paper one at work :-(
If you find anything on the web about this, please let me know!
Regards,