Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 18:30:34 -0500 (EST)
From: Ryan M Gill <monty@arcadia.turner.com>
Subject: RE: Was re: RFACS but diverging into philosophic ramblings
about future tech...
> On Wed, 16 Feb 2000, Robertson, Brendan wrote:
> Not really.
Or he could move here where it was 67¡F and had a cloudless blue sky. I rode
the bike to work today, as I did yesterday. Georgia in the winter (what many
people would call spring or fall) is so wonderful...
</gloat>
** Is that plus or minus Tornados? And I'll bet in the summer it gets *real*
hot. See, the nice thing about life above the 49th Parallel (I think that's
the right one... though that could be the northern one...)
is that the summers are (except for 3-4 weeks at the hottest) quite
bearable. Fall and Spring are awesome seasons. We don't get many floods, we
get few earth tremors (Canadian Shield and all) and we don't get too many
Tornados, and pretty much zero in the realm of Typhoons, Tropical Storms, and
Hurricanes. All in all, we shouldn't complain about a wee bit of snow. I'll
cut Adrian some slack... he has a little more difficulty with big piles of
snow than most of us... but mostly Canada is just about the best place to
live.... (although the Aussie claim of not owning a greatcoat or any sort of
significant jacket certainly does
make one think twice on a Cold freezin-ass Ontario evening...).
You go ride your bike and enjoy your 67 F. When it hits 107 in the summer,
then we'll talk about how nice it is up here in the land of the Mukluk and the
Igloo....;)
Tom
Ah, the wonders of mild, middle-of-the-road climates.... one of the
things I miss about my home in Oregon is the fact that it seldom got much
colder than 40 F, and seldom much hotter than 85 or so.... of course, our
small token to the gods was putting up with rain that would make Noah edgy...
though we
didn't have much in the way of meterological catastrophes either...
Brian B
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From: Thomas Barclay of the Clan Barclay <kaladorn@home.com>
Reply-To: gzg-l@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
To: GZG List <gzg-l@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU>
Subject: Georgia in winter
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 19:41:47 -0500
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 18:30:34 -0500 (EST)
From: Ryan M Gill <monty@arcadia.turner.com>
Subject: RE: Was re: RFACS but diverging into philosophic ramblings
about future tech...
> On Wed, 16 Feb 2000, Robertson, Brendan wrote:
> Not really.
Or he could move here where it was 67¡F and had a cloudless blue sky. I rode
the bike to work today, as I did yesterday. Georgia in the winter (what many
people would call spring or fall) is so wonderful...
</gloat>
** Is that plus or minus Tornados? And I'll bet in the summer it gets *real*
hot. See, the nice thing about life above the 49th Parallel (I think that's
the right one... though that could be the northern one...)
is that the summers are (except for 3-4 weeks at the hottest) quite
bearable. Fall and Spring are awesome seasons. We don't get many floods, we
get few earth tremors (Canadian Shield and all) and we don't get too many
Tornados, and pretty much zero in the realm of Typhoons, Tropical Storms, and
Hurricanes. All in all, we shouldn't complain about a wee bit of snow. I'll
cut Adrian some slack... he has a little more difficulty with big piles of
snow than most of us... but mostly Canada is just about the best place to
live.... (although the Aussie claim of not owning a greatcoat or any sort of
significant jacket certainly does
make one think twice on a Cold freezin-ass Ontario evening...).
You go ride your bike and enjoy your 67 F. When it hits 107 in the summer,
then we'll talk about how nice it is up here in the land of the Mukluk and the
Igloo....;)
Tom
> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 18:30:34 -0500 (EST)
I
> rode the bike to work today, as I did yesterday. Georgia in the winter
Well Said! But is 49th parallel the best you can muster? I'm up above the
60th, and things are still rather nice (assuming you like winter activities)
Summers are a balmy 65-75 F, with 20+ hours of sunlight a day.
Upwards of 22 at mid summer. The weather in Anchorage is fairly
moderate, though I have gone to school when it was -40 (F and C)
_before_ the wind. That's unusual, though. January was a crazy
combination of snow dumps (8+ inches a night, plus another 6 during
the day) alternating with chinooks. the _strong_, warm southern winds
that put us well above freezing and suck up all the snow that got deposited.
The only difficulty is when the snow doesn't entirely
evaporate and then re-freezes, leaving a nice wind-polished sheet of
ice on everything, especially the roads.;>
But whenever I think about 100 F + weather, a bit of snow looks fine,
especially when I can throw a log on the fireplace and relax.
Jared
On 15-Feb-00 at 19:35, Thomas Barclay of the Clan Barclay
(kaladorn@home.com)
wrote: > Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 18:30:34 -0500 (EST)
> You go ride your bike and enjoy your 67 F. When it hits 107 in the
It doesn't hit 107, 99-100 is about tops other than that odd week or
two in the summer. However, when it hits 99 and has 95% humidity life can be
miserable without AC. Of course, then you just go to the beach.
> Roger Books wrote:
> It doesn't hit 107, 99-100 is about tops other than that odd week or
Well, we've had a really, really mild summer. The coldest in recorded
history in fact. Hardly a day above 30 (C - let's see, multiply by 9/5,
add 32) in Canberra. And we had a mild winter, not a trace of snow.
Now 2 years ago, Ivanhoe (not so very far from here) hit 50. That's hot. But
usually Canberra doesn't see 40C in a year, and never above 45.
Which brings me to....
Considering the range of temperatures here on Earth, plus natural hazards such
as Tornados etc. what effect would extremes of weather have
in SG/DS? The plastic thermometer I left in my car was melted one day,
> Ah, the wonders of mild, middle-of-the-road climates.... one of the
Depends on where you are in Oregon. My mother's place in Albany can get quite
hot in the summer, in the 90's. Anyplace near a ocean will have a more even
climate such as Hawaii or San Francisco.
Enjoy,
> On Tue, 15 Feb 2000, Thomas Barclay of the Clan Barclay wrote:
> ** Is that plus or minus Tornados? And I'll bet in the summer it gets
Well, in my 28 years here, I've shoveled the drive way once. In summer,
it does get hot, but every place has AC. _Every Place_. We have a fall
and Spring that are incredibly long. November and December were still in
the 50s - 70s for the most part. Tonight I rode the bike and didn't have
to bundle up like the Stay Puffed Marshmello Man.
> bearable. Fall and Spring are awesome seasons. We don't get many
Close to no Tornado's here. Very little over all. The ones we had recently
were in the flat part of the state.
> You go ride your bike and enjoy your 67 F. When it hits 107 in the
I just go faster or ride at night. I have more pleasnt days than you I think
for things out doors. I prefer more green.
> On Tue, 15 Feb 2000, Brian Bilderback wrote:
> Ah, the wonders of mild, middle-of-the-road climates.... one of the
I'll trade the rare Tornado for living on the ring of fire thankyou. I also
like the rain to stop after a few hours.
> I'll trade the rare Tornado for living on the ring of fire thankyou.
Rare... ah, yes.... only a few a year, ever so rare... and you know those
Oregon volcanoes go off as damnable frequently as ever thousand years or
so...
> I
We prefer our ambient moisture actually getting it over with and falling, not
lingering around on a hot summer day and producing
Giant-Dog-Breathing-On-You humidity.
> Close to no Tornado's here. Very little over all. The ones we had
Flat? Oregonians reserve that for their pancakes.
> I just go faster or ride at night. I have more pleasnt days than you >I
Don't get me started on green.
*sigh* Mind you, this is just fond memories. I'm now stuck in Californication.
> also like the rain to stop after a few hours.
One of my college buddies lived in Oregon. Moved when he could recognize
different kinds of mold at a glance (he said).
He also said that moving to central Texas turned out to be an overreaction.
I guess it all comes down to a question of personal preference and where you
consider home to be. I think your friend was right on the second part though.
Brian B
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From: "Laserlight" <laserlight@quixnet.net>
Reply-To: gzg-l@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
To: <gzg-l@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU>
Subject: Re: Georgia in winter
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 20:36:31 -0500
> also like the rain to stop after a few hours.
One of my college buddies lived in Oregon. Moved when he could recognize
different kinds of mold at a glance (he said).
He also said that moving to central Texas turned out to be an overreaction.
On Tue, 15 Feb 2000 19:41:47 -0500, Thomas Barclay of the Clan Barclay
> <kaladorn@home.com> wrote:
> See, the nice thing about life above the 49th Parallel (I
I'm heading down to New Orleans in a couple of weeks for Mardi Gras. They are
in the 70s right now. They couldn't believe that we had a 57 degree F shift
the other week there... They also can't believe that people actually DO adapt.
I was reading in our paper about a woman in the arctic. She was complaining
that the temperature was about -20 F. You see, she does tours on her dog
sled and at that temperature the dogs start to overheat. She was out in her
caribou clothing, but only wearing a sweater and light jacket.
Sure, it gets hot and humid in Southern Ontario in the summer (my friend from
Calgary is always complaining about the humidity) but not as bad as
Louisiana/Southern Mississippi! Don't forget those sub zero temperatures
kill bacteria too (real cold tends to crack bacterial cell walls) or makes
them dormant.
Mind you... I'll try to remember all this as I'm shoveling the walk...
In a message dated 2/17/00 7:39:37 PM Central Standard Time,
> laserlight@quixnet.net writes:
<< He also said that moving to central Texas turned out to be an overreaction.
> [quoted text omitted]
And just what's wrong with central Texas? ;-)
John
In a message dated 2/17/00 8:29:46 PM Central Standard Time,
> bbilderback@hotmail.com writes:
<< I guess it all comes down to a question of personal preference and where
you consider home to be. I think your friend was right on the second part
though.
> [quoted text omitted]
Again I ask the question, what do you wimpy northern types have against the
comfortably warm climate of central Texas? It's great, gets too cool in winter
sometimes, though, into the 40's or so.
(Saying this from South Texas, where the temperature was a sunny 85 degrees
today :-)
John
> On Thu, 17 Feb 2000, Brian Bilderback wrote:
> Rare... ah, yes.... only a few a year, ever so rare... and you know
The yearly tornado usually only takes a Chicken Farm or two in the mountians.
Your stuff on the ring of fire takes the whole damn mountian.
You can hid from a tornado. You can't hide from ash clouds, pyroclastic flows
or mudslides caused by catestrophic snow melt.
> We prefer our ambient moisture actually getting it over with and
You call Drizzle 300 of 365 days a year dry?
> On Thu, 17 Feb 2000, Brian Bilderback wrote:
> >Close to no Tornado's here. Very little over all. The ones we had
Nope, that was about Georgia. Georgia is flat south of the Peidmont plateau.
Its all former sea bed (hence the sandy soil).
> Don't get me started on green.
Isn't that Kalifornication?
Wimpy? Given the burning I got yesterday, I won't go there. My only
complaint against texas is that it isn't Oregon - the same complaint I
have against anywhere. LOL I have traveled a lot, and lived many places, and
almost anywhere you go you'll find something good about it. But only home is
home.
The yearly tornado usually only takes a Chicken Farm or two in the mountians.
Your stuff on the ring of fire takes the whole damn mountian.
You can hid from a tornado. You can't hide from ash clouds, pyroclastic flows
or mudslides caused by catestrophic snow melt.
Exactly how often do you think that kind of thing actually happens? I'll call
to see if you're ok the next time a tornado kills someone back
there --
I'm sure I'll be calling you long before you ever hear rumblings from a new
volcano.
You call Drizzle 300 of 365 days a year dry?
If you think that's REALLY how often it rains in all of Oregon, go right
ahead. It keeps people from overcrowding the place. But for all it's wetness,
at least Oregon isn't unbreathably muggy.
Take your pick. Either way, it's just as bad. But at least I'm not in
Hell-A
I live in oregon and love it, the last few days have been absolutely
wonderful. sunny and 60's, saturday I went to anthony lakes ski park. I didn't
ski but I was hanging out with my friends and watching people try and amke a
jump and crash. Then me and my friends proceeded to to climb up a black
diamond run. We went up to the top of the mountain a nice hike through about
64" of snow. I was wearing jeans a sweater and a light jacket. temp was 8
degrees farenheit. when we got to the top we hiked down another ski slope,
occasionally rolling down parts of the hill. It was a lot of fun, even though
my jeans had gotten soaked and then frozen solid and I couldn't feel my legs.
personally I like the cold, and I don't particularly like the heat. heat is
natures way of saying "but AC" or "go swimming." Its all a matter of personal
temperature tolerance and opinion.
Where in Oregon? (Envy and homesickness kicking in....)
portland, the beautiful town that has more restaurants per capita than any
other city in the U.S.. oh and I like grey rainy days, they're really quite
beautifulonce you get a taste for them.
> Brian Bilderback wrote:
> Where in Oregon? (Envy and homesickness kicking in....)
Don't forget that it's also home to more microbreweries than any other US
city.
I love Portland, but even it is a bit too big for me. My hope is to move to
Eugene.
> Don't forget that it's also home to more microbreweries than
Sigh. Okay, can we kill this thread?
Eugene is a very nice city too, and I do love small college towns. but
portland is like several different towns in one, each neighborhood has its own
distinct personality. I live near Hawthorne one of the most cool places in all
of portland. unfortunately the damn Yuppies have already started their
insidious invasion, and several of the best little hardcore, independent,
underground stores have been taken over. Its all a matter of time before the
yuppies destroy everything good everywhere.
p.s. I'm not 21 yet so I can't enjoy the microbrews for a couple of
years.=(