[FullThrust] Low thrust small ship designs

6 posts ยท Feb 26 2002 to Feb 27 2002

From: Glenn M Wilson <triphibious@j...>

Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 18:10:59 EST

Subject: FW: [FullThrust] Low thrust small ship designs

Bringing this to a list near you <grin>.

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From: "triphibious" <triphibious@juno.com>
To: FullThrust@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FullThrust] Low thrust small ship designs
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 20:00:24 -0000
Message-ID: <a5gpgo+8vtj@egroups.com>

Been thinking about a post on the gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu list
concerning "...low thrust small ships..." and how to deploy them.

Laserlight posted his excellant ash Shaulah strike craft: (in summary) Mass 8
FTL mass 1 (.8 rounded up) Main Drive 6 (2.4 rounded to 2 mass; amazingly a
drive four is 1.6 rounded to 2 also so there is no saving mass for a slower
ship) 1 FCS mass 1
4 mass weaponry (B3/1 arc, 2 NB, SMR 2 x MTM or submunitions x 4.

I am assuming that the original poster was interested in convoy escorts (but
maybe not) because the post read, in part, "...If escort ships are kept close
to the things they are escorting, then they
don't need such big drives..." and most non-combat ships seem to run
about main drive 2, only requiring a MD of 4 if you are thinking a SF
equivalent to the WW2 armed trawler/sloop/corvette.

So I took Laserlight's model and tried it out in designing even smaller ships:

"Peony" Class Escort:

Mass 6 FTL mass 1 (.6 rounded up) MD 4 mass 1 (1.2 rounded down) FCS 1 mass 1
3 mass weaponry:
some possibilities - B2/6 arcs, Submunitions x 3, B1 x 3, MTM and
PDS, NB and B1, or B2/3 Arc and PDS.  More are possible (such as
armor) but I stopped there.

"Desperate" class gunboat:

Mass 4 FTL mass 1 (minimum) MD 4 mass 1 (.8 rounded up) FCS 1 mass 1 Weapon
mass 1:

B1 or Submunitions pack. In a strictly defensive role I guess you could put
some 'armed' with a PDS if you expected them to act as decoys to SM's (once.)

Other then a low level convoy mission playing the role of close in last ditch
protection, what scenarios would such ships have value in?

Gracias, Glenn

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From: Jaime Tiampo <fugu@s...>

Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 15:18:59 -0800

Subject: Re: FW: [FullThrust] Low thrust small ship designs

> Glenn M Wilson wrote:

> Laserlight posted his excellant ash Shaulah strike craft:

> "Peony" Class Escort:

One question. Where's the hull? Each ship uses all the mass points without
having 1 hull box.

From: Laserlight <laserlight@q...>

Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 20:51:28 -0500

Subject: Re: [FullThrust] Low thrust small ship designs

> Laserlight posted his excellant ash Shaulah strike craft:

which: a) die very fast indeed, particularly in vector...a variety of weapons
are possible but MTM are *highly* recommended, especially by the crew. b) are
based on Schoon's Requin class

> FTL mass 1 (.8 rounded up)

no FTL

You could also delete the FCS, add ADFC + 3PDS.  If one eats a SMR,

From: Laserlight <laserlight@q...>

Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 20:52:51 -0500

Subject: Re: FW: [FullThrust] Low thrust small ship designs

From: Jaime Tiampo <fugu@spikyfishthing.com>

> >ash Shaulah strike craft:

Jaime:
> One question. Where's the hull? Each ship uses all the mass points

ash Shaulah should have 1 hull box, no FTL

From: Glenn M Wilson <triphibious@j...>

Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 21:36:13 EST

Subject: Re: FW: [FullThrust] Low thrust small ship designs

That was *pointed out* on another list - Oerjan amd his magic mental
calculator <grin>

See post to follow...

On Tue, 26 Feb 2002 15:18:59 -0800 Jaime Tiampo
<fugu@spikyfishthing.com> writes:
> Glenn M Wilson wrote:

From: Glenn M Wilson <triphibious@j...>

Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 21:45:41 EST

Subject: Re: [FullThrust] Low thrust small ship designs

On Tue, 26 Feb 2002 20:51:28 -0500 "Laserlight" <laserlight@quixnet.net>
writes:
> Laserlight posted his excellant ash Shaulah strike craft:

Ah, a system defense or Battlerider boat. I assumed it was FTL. my error.

Gracias,