[FT] UNSC (emotional rant), etc etc etc...

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> Taxation is state-sponsored robbery, pure and simple. How is it

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> ...and screw property rights of the ones who are un-willing to pay,

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Well.

One could go on about the fact that governments didn't spontaneously
generate... they were created by people for good reason, and we (collectively,
if not individually) choose to keep them there.

One could say that by choosing to live in a state that has taxation, you buy
into that social contract. If you don't like it, get out.

One could say that the benefits of government are clearly demonstrated by the
fact that we don't live in caves, we have lightbulbs, etc. The
benefits of no-government are quite clearly demonstrated by certain
portions of our world in recent history.  Say, mid-1990's Somalia.
Mogadishu. Rule of the gun. Great place to live...

One could say that property "rights" are a purely human construct, and that
without the structure of government there are no such things as rights,
particularly specific ones like "property rights," at all. Things like the
mythical "right to life" - does the poor bloke drowning in the middle of
the ocean have a "right to life?" Phooey. Rights are only "real" if you have
the ability to defend them and if other people collectively agree that they
exist. And that comes from either a gun (or stick, or rock, or pitchfork, or
whatever), or a governmental structure with laws of some kind
- a group of people all agreeing to buy into the same idea.  And the
latter is the only one that has been even vaguely fair throughout *all* of
recorded history. Rights don't exist in and of themselves.

One could go on, and on, about all this and argue political and moral
philosophy 'til the end of days, but when it comes right down to it, this
discussion is now becoming really, really silly.

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