[FT] Things I cant figure

12 posts ยท Aug 9 2000 to Aug 10 2000

From: Aron_Clark@d...

Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 15:07:48 -0700

Subject: [FT] Things I cant figure

I'm getting ready to run a FT game at my local club. Like a good GM I've been
reviewing the rules and preparing some play-aids.  I've a few questions
on that I haven't been able to sort out for myself.

- Do fighters still have a fore quadrant arc of fire (as per FT)?  How
does this relate to the FB arc of fire?
- What exactly is the ER class of the SML?  I can find no clear
reference in FB1.
- I heard some elusion on list that Needle Beam damage may not be
repaired by Damage Control Parties, correct? I imagine detailed in MT.
- Are Sub-Munition Packs restricted to one arc of fire?

I thinks that's about it, though I imagine I'll have a few more later.

From: Sean Bayan Schoonmaker <schoon@a...>

Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 15:42:41 -0700

Subject: Re: [FT] Things I cant figure

> - Do fighters still have a fore quadrant arc of fire (as per FT)?

Nope, they just need to be within 6" (FB1 pg6)

> - What exactly is the ER class of the SML? I can find no clear

It's not a different weapon, it's simply different ammunition for the same
"tubes." The ER munitions are 3 MASS instead of 2, and have an additional 12"
placement range (36" total) (FB1 pg9)

> - I heard some elusion on list that Needle Beam damage may not be

True. Jon had commented that such systems are beyond repair.

> - Are Sub-Munition Packs restricted to one arc of fire?

No, they are not (not sure on the reference)

From: Laserlight <laserlight@q...>

Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 19:02:05 -0400

Subject: Re: [FT] Things I cant figure

Aron Clark asked
> >- Are Sub-Munition Packs restricted to one arc of fire?

Someone said:
> No, they are not (not sure on the reference)

I don't think that's correct. My books are all at work, but my impression is
that Submunition packs are directional, ie limited arcs.

From: Robertson, Brendan <Brendan.Robertson@d...>

Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 09:10:41 +1000

Subject: RE: [FT] Things I cant figure

Subpacs are limited to 1 arc fire. It can be restrictive due to the short
range, but still worth it if you can get them off. That's one reason I mounted
them in broadside on my Canberra class BB for the OUDF, cheap effective punch
when your main guns can't bear.

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From: Sean Bayan Schoonmaker <schoon@a...>

Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 16:18:13 -0700

Subject: RE: [FT] Things I cant figure

> Subpacs are limited to 1 arc fire. It can be restrictive due to the

I'm not so sure on this. Can you find the reference (as I couldn't)?

From: Beth Fulton <beth.fulton@m...>

Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 09:31:22 +1000

Subject: RE: [FT] Things I cant figure

G'day Schoon,

> Subpacs are limited to 1 arc fire. It can be restrictive due to the

Its in the FAQ. And just in case the new guys in town don't know where that is
its at
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Station/3565/faq-index.html

By the way we found that saying that the funnel/upside down triangle bit
of the icon was actually the arc indicator was very useful when you wanted to
avoid the arcs always being exactly where the firer wanted them.

Cheers

Beth

From: John Leary <john_t_leary@y...>

Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 16:40:15 -0700 (PDT)

Subject: RE: [FT] Things I cant figure

--- Sean Bayan Schoonmaker <s_schoon@pacbell.net>
wrote:
> >Subpacs are limited to 1 arc fire. It can be

Schoon, The arc restriction is not written in the
rules/discription of the submunition, rather
it is shown in the 'Symbols for weapons from advanced rules' box at the bottom
of
page 30 of Full Thrust 2nd.   The first entry
is a 'DIRECTION OF FIRE' arrow.

Bye for now,

From: Sean Bayan Schoonmaker <schoon@a...>

Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 19:32:36 -0700

Subject: RE: [FT] Things I cant figure

> The arc restriction is not written in the

Well, things have changed a bit since then, and as the symbol does not have a
60 degree arc...

I'm not really being argumentative, I just want to be SURE.

From: Brian Bell <bkb@b...>

Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 23:09:17 -0400

Subject: Re: [FT] Things I cant figure

> At 19:02 2000-08-09 -0400, you wrote:

This is always how we played (sub-pacs as 1 arc).
But, you are correct, the rules do not state it anywhere, it is just implied
by the chart at the bottom of page 30 (FT 2nd ed.).

We also played that they could be pointed at other arcs than forward, but
there is no example of this in the sample ships of FT & MT (or even
FB1).
[The chart on FT page 30 is rotated 90 degrees as 2nd ed. PTorps and
Nova Cannons could only point forward].

Taking another look at the chart I got a chuckle. Does the mine laying system
shoot mines out the front or back? The rules state that it is along the path
the minelayer traveled, but the chart on page 30 could indicate

either the front or the back of the minelaying symbol (as it is the same

right side up or upside down). The minesweeper symbol also has the same
problem. No response is necessary, I just found it a bit funny.
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From: Laserlight <laserlight@q...>

Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 23:27:19 -0400

Subject: Re: [FT] Things I cant figure

Brian Bell wondered:
> Taking another look at the chart I got a chuckle. Does the mine

Hopefully you're placing mines in places you have left and you're sweeping
mines from places you're going to. Doing either in reverse may mean that, by
the time you get there, you're no longer there.

From: Donald Hosford <hosford.donald@a...>

Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 01:38:24 -0400

Subject: Re: [FT] Things I cant figure

Famous last words: "looks great on paper"...

Donald Hosford

> Laserlight wrote:

> Brian Bell wondered:

From: Ground Zero Games <jon@g...>

Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 09:12:46 +0100

Subject: RE: [FT] Things I cant figure

> The arc restriction is not written in the

Just to [OFFICIALLY] clear this up, the submunition pack is a one-arc
weapon (90 degrees under original rules, 60 degrees under FB rules). Arc
facing is determined by the way the symbol is pointing on the SSD (base of
triangle on icon in direction of fire).