[FT] Strange Forces

15 posts ยท Feb 12 2002 to Feb 17 2002

From: John Crimmins <johncrim@v...>

Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 19:43:30 -0500 (EST)

Subject: [FT] Strange Forces

I don't know if this has an FT applications, but it's certainly food for

thought....

http://www.washtimes.com/world/20020211-67166412.htm

From: Michael Llaneza <maserati@e...>

Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 17:10:21 -0800

Subject: Re: [FT] Strange Forces

It's a warp point!

> John Crimmins wrote:

> I don't know if this has an FT applications, but it's certainly food

From: Robertson, Brendan <Brendan.Robertson@d...>

Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 12:21:22 +1100

Subject: RE: [FT] Strange Forces

On Tuesday, February 12, 2002 11:44 AM, John Crimmins
> [SMTP:johncrim@voicenet.com] wrote:

I wonder if they've thought of plain old friction from intersteller gas
particles...

From: Michael Llaneza <maserati@e...>

Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 17:43:09 -0800

Subject: Re: [FT] Strange Forces

maybe they used the wrong units for the drag factor...

> Robertson, Brendan wrote:

> On Tuesday, February 12, 2002 11:44 AM, John Crimmins

From: Warren Shultzaberger <carol.warren@p...>

Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 05:18:49 -0500

Subject: RE: [FT] Strange Forces

> John Crimmins Wrote:
http://www.washtimes.com/world/20020211-67166412.htm

It's the UFO Illuminati!! They have quarantined us from contaminating other
sentients!

I doubt you remember me, John, but I'm a long time fan of your "Destroy All
Monsters" game. I the guy the sent you the PDF version of your game.

From: Brian Bilderback <bbilderback@h...>

Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 15:26:44 -0800

Subject: Fwd: Re: [FT] Strange Forces

I forwarded the original list e-mail to my friend Brian earlier today,
here's his reply:

2B^2

> From: "Brian Fuchs" <FUCHS_001@msn.com>
!!!!!
> !!
community
> site. It suggested an idea about the nature of gravity which closely

From: Brian Bilderback <bbilderback@h...>

Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 16:14:31 -0800

Subject: Fwd: Re: [FT] Strange Forces

> From: "Brian Fuchs" <FUCHS_001@msn.com>
!!!!
> !

> food

From: Brian Bell <bkb@b...>

Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 11:08:55 -0500

Subject: RE: [FT] Strange Forces

I heard a program (Talk of the Nation, Science Friday?) that was discussing
the finding that the universe is not slowing down as it expands; it is
actually gaining velocity. IIRC, this was evidenced by comparing the amount
of red-shift between objects over a set of standard intervals. The
amount of shift was increasing with each measurement.

One theory proposed was that vaccum actually produced a repulsive force (much
weaker than gravity). Kind of strange thinking of something comming from
nothing (but string theory is strange anyway)!

From: Brian Bilderback <bbilderback@h...>

Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 15:35:56 -0800

Subject: Fwd: Re: RE: [FT] Strange Forces

Not agreeing/disagreeing, just passing it along....

2B^2

> From: "Brian Fuchs" <FUCHS_001@msn.com>
Now, we
> have never observed antimatter in sufficient quantities to determine

From: Laserlight <laserlight@q...>

Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 18:53:41 -0500

Subject: Re: Re: RE: [FT] Strange Forces

> >gravitational effects. However, it would not be too much of a

As I had understood it, antimatter has positive mass and therefore normal
gravity; however, it is possible that there are particles with negative mass,
which would attract each other but repel particles with positive matter. There
was an article in Analog which discussed this, probably somewhere 1980 and
1990. The author said that you could couple a positive and negative mass and
get something which constantly accelerated with no energy input and, since
half the mass is negative,
it doesn't violate conservation of mass-energy.

It occured to me that this may be the way photons work, and why we can't make
up our mind whether they're waves or particles.

I can't unfortunately, recall who the author is and it's not in one of

From: Beth Fulton <beth.fulton@m...>

Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 11:15:08 +1100

Subject: RE: Re: RE: [FT] Strange Forces

G'day,

> As I had understood it, antimatter has positive mass and therefore

There's also mirror matter... maybe we're seeing the gravitational effects of
a mirror matter planet within our local system (then again maybe I know just
enough physics to be the equivalent of a deranged looney about to shoot their
own foot off).

Cheers

From: Roger Burton West <roger@f...>

Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 07:52:50 +0000

Subject: Re: Re: RE: [FT] Strange Forces

> On Wed, Feb 13, 2002 at 06:53:41PM -0500, Laserlight wrote:

Robert L. Forward wrote a book (_Timemaster_) on this premise. If one
ignores the attempts at characterisation, it's quite fun.

From: Brian Bilderback <bbilderback@h...>

Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 13:47:00 -0800

Subject: Fwd: Re: RE: Re: RE: [FT] Strange Forces

The last is passed on frim Mr.Fuchs.

2B^2

> From: "Brian Fuchs" <FUCHS_001@msn.com>

> with

> Although it is true that antimatter has mass, it is also true that

From: Laserlight <laserlight@q...>

Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 19:37:48 -0500

Subject: Re: Re: RE: Re: RE: [FT] Strange Forces

> >Although it is true that antimatter has mass, it is also true that

Oh, it's not negative. It's just a number with a hyphen in front of

From: John Crimmins <johncrim@v...>

Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 22:57:54 -0500

Subject: RE: [FT] Strange Forces

> At 05:18 AM 2/12/02 -0500, you wrote:

Well, they made first contact with the Sa'Vasku back in the late 1800s. It was
a pretty unpleasant experience all around; A Mr.Winfield Scott Lovecraft was
one of those in attendance. He later told his son Howard a little about the
meeting, and it made a great impression upon the lad. He later wrote some
obscure stories inspired by the tales his father told him.