[FT]Star Trek rules - BIG thanks & [FT] Some thinking on sensor and operational level games

2 posts ยท Jun 27 2001 to Jun 27 2001

From: Doug Evans <devans@n...>

Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 09:35:50 -0500

Subject: Re: [FT]Star Trek rules - BIG thanks & [FT] Some thinking on sensor and operational level games

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> David, just out of curiosity: What models do you use for your photos?

I know I wasn't asked, but the ones at

http://www2.dynamite.com.au/aebrain/FT/INDEX.HTM

are all to the same scale. From different manufacturers as
noted, forex http://www2.dynamite.com.au/aebrain/FT/ft_ca1.jpg
are by Galoob, Gamescience, and TSG.
***

Well, Alan, I DID mention you first thing when the rules question came up.
;->=

David, as you can see by the generated posts, there's a great interest in
this, and you'd be doing us all a big favor if you caption your piccies.
I've a question or two about the B5/UN page, but I'll be patient.

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Depends too much on the thrust mechanics. If a rocket with a plume, we could
be talking
detection at a range of Light Years if a matter/
antimatter fusion torch.
***

That is, if you're willing to wait years for the info, which is why they're
called light years. ;->=

This hasn't been discussed so far that I've noticed; natch, we're all assuming
that an oncoming ship would be way slower, relatively, than the light coming
from it in a combat situation. Least, I am, though if something coming at me
at near lightspeed, it'd almost be on me before I could 'see' it.

I've tended to assume a subspace sensor system, which might well have a
limited range, but would be fast enough for reasonable firing solutions.

However, I still think we're giving too much credence to current technology's
advantage to detection, while I can imagine, though not explain, a shift in
the other direction.

The_Beast

-Douglas J. Evans, curmudgeon

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From: David Griffin <carbon_dragon@y...>

Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 10:20:23 -0700 (PDT)

Subject: Re: [FT]Star Trek rules - BIG thanks & [FT] Some thinking on sensor and operational level games

Until I do, here is an explanation of each miniature (or picture the miniature
designed to
look like in the case of the UN ships -- some
have pictures from books or tv) in order left to right top to bottom.

> --- devans@uneb.edu wrote:
...
> David, as you can see by the generated posts,
...

Company what miniature avail?

fed 1 file: Task Force Games CV (carrier) miniature
 Yes
Task Force Games CV (carrier) miniature
 Yes
Task Force Games CV (carrier) miniature
 Yes
FASA (Ral Partha) Excelsior
 No
(though Rawcliffe makes one the right size) Rawcliffe Galaxy
 Yes
FASA Northhampton Frigate No (very rare) Gamescience (Lou Zocchi) Dreadnought
 Yes
(Sold directly or through Task Force) Rawcliffe Enterprise E
 Yes
(too small for real enterprise E) Galoob Micro Machines Enterprise D
 Not sure
(way too small for galaxy) Galoob Micro Machines Enterprise C (pewter plastic)
 Not sure
(way too small for ambassador) FASA Chandley Frigate
 No
Galoob Micro Machines Excelsior (plastic)
 Not sure
(way too small for Excelsior) FASA (Ral Partha) Excelsior
 No
(though Rawcliffe makes one the right size) Galoob Micro Machines Enterprise C
(pewter plastic)
 Not sure
(way too small for ambassador)

fed2 file:

Task Force Games New Battlecruiser
 Yes
FASA Movie Enterprise
 No
(though Rawcliffe makes a better one and micro machine one is the right size)
Galoob Micro Machines Farragut
 Not sure
(probably too small) Galoob Micro Machines Voyager
 Not sure
(too big for light cruiser) Gamescience (Lou Zocchi) Heavy Cruiser
 Yes
(Sold directly or through Task Force) Task Force Games New Heavy Cruiser
 Yes
FASA Andor Missile Cruiser
 No
FASA Locknar Frigate
 No
FASA Modified Locknar Frigate
 N/A
(Scratchbuilt purchased by me) Task Force Games First model of NCL
 No
FASA Reliant
 No
(though Rawcliffe is right size and micro machine is right size) FASA
Scratchbuilt Durret Cruiser
 No
(Scratchbuilt purchased by me) Task Force Games Old light cruiser No (I don't
think) Task Force Games New model of NCL
 Yes
Galoob Micro Machines Defiant
 Not sure
(too big)

fed 3 file:

Galoob Micro Machines Stargazer (pewter plastic)
 Not sure
FASA Remora Escort (still sold fasa site)

(going going gone ggg)
Gamescience (Lou Zocchi) Destroyer and/or Scout
 Yes
(Sold directly or through Task Force) FASA Baker Destroyer
 No
Task Force Games New Destroyer
 Yes
FASA Larson Destroyer
 No
FASA Modified Larson Destroyer
 No
(Scratchbuilt bought by me) FASA Wilkerson Destroyer
 No
(Scratchbuilt bought by me) Gamescience (Lou Zocchi) Tug
 Yes
(Sold directly or through Task Force) FASA Grissom Science Cruiser
 No
(Though micromachine is pretty close
                        to right size -- just a little
big) Bergstrom Fed
 Yes
(They make lots of tiny little ships)... end of row Task Force Games
Federation Frigate
 Yes
(old version square nacelles, new version round nacelles) Whole last row shows
Superior Aquarian fighter

UN page (B5W = Babylon 5 Wars, FA = Babylon 5 Fleet Action):

Agents of Gaming Poseidon Supercarrier (B5W)
 Yes
Agents of Gaming Avenger Carrier (B5W)
 Yes
Agents of Gaming Avenger Carrier (FA)
 Yes
Agents of Gaming Warlock Advanced Destroyer(B5W) Yes Agents of Gaming Nova
Dreadnought (B5W)
 Yes
Agents of Gaming Omega Destroyer (B5W)
 Yes
Agents of Gaming Standard Freighter (B5W)
 Yes
Agents of Gaming Standard Tanker (B5W)
 Yes
Agents of Gaming Standard Freighter (B5W)
 Yes
Jovian Chronicles Valiant Strike Carrier
 Yes
(Dream Pod Nine) Jovian Chronicles Poseidon Battleships
 Yes
(Dream Pod Nine) Agents of Gaming Hyperion Heavy Cruiser(B5W)
 Yes
Agents of Gaming Olympus Corvette (B5W)
 Yes
Agents of Gaming Oracle Light Cruiser (B5W)
 Yes
Agents of Gaming Omega Destroyer (FA)
 Yes
Jovian Chronicles Tengu Escort Carrier
 Yes
(Dream Pod Nine) Agents of Gaming Nova Dreadnought (FA)
 Yes
Agents of Gaming Nova Dreadnought (FA)
 Yes
Agents of Gaming Hyperion Cruiser (FA)
 Yes
Agents of Gaming Saggitarious Missile Cruiser(B5W) Yes Geohex UN
Superdreadnought
 Yes
Geohex UN Battleship
 Yes
Geohex UN Battledreadnought
 Yes
Geohex UN Battlecruiser
 Yes
Geohex UN Destroyer
 Yes
Agents of Gaming Starfury fighter (B5W)
 Yes
Brigade Models Jericho Battlecruiser
 Yes
Agents of Gaming Olympus Corvette (FA)
 Yes
Agents of Gaming Omega Destroyer (B5W)
 Yes
Agents of Gaming Hyperion Cruiser (FA)
 Yes
Not sure Traveller Safari Ship
 Unknown
Agents of Gaming Saggitarious Missile (FA)
 Yes
Geohex UN Heavy Cruiser
 Yes
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Geohex UN Exploration ship
 Yes
Geohex UN Replenishment Ship
 Yes