[FT] ST Alternatives Re: [FT]Star Trek rules - BIG thanks

David:
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Yes, the Micromachine constitutions are the right scales, but most of the rest
of their ships aren't. The defiant is too big (as is voyager). The excelsior
is too small. The galaxy is WAY too small. The ambassador is way too small,
etc. There is no consistency.
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Well, there is consistency: they all take up about the same space in an MM
package. ;->=

Beyond that, I'd point out that even GZG-FT figs break down here and
there; I have trouble imagining 24 of the fighters fitting in almost any
carrier(the NSL big T is one HONKER) and still have room for the crew,
weapons, power plants, etc., indicated.

Flying an MM Galaxy next to an MM Excelsior is a bit jarring, but I can
live with it. Putting a six-plus inch ship amongst the less than three
inchers, unless it's a juggernaught in a mostly straight line across the
table, seems a bit awkward. I just wish they didn't WARP so easily, and I
don't mean go to translight.

Giving differences in peoples' tolerences to visual conundrums and desires
for ease-of-play, it's a very big YMMV.

Oh, just saw your post on the piccies. BIG thanks! I recognized one of the
Jovian Chronicles ships, but not the other one. As an aside, I've been
noticing the resin ships on eBay you mentioned; glad I didn't get in your
way. ;->=

Don:
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> I talked Drew Bergstrom into making the Falcon Frigate
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You have my thanks! I don't know if anyone agreed to the Maquis ship as the
Fed fighter, but I'd like it. Likewise, a Jem Ha'dar would make my day. I have
GOT to get that man some money!(Yes, you've heard THAT before.)

> --- devans@uneb.edu wrote:
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> Well, there is consistency: they all take up about

Yea, grumble grumble grumble

> Beyond that, I'd point out that even GZG-FT figs

Well there is a point where you couldn't even pick them up if they were to
scale.

> Flying an MM Galaxy next to an MM Excelsior is a bit

That's why I use the MM's as smaller ships with much the same planform:

Excelsior -- repulse class battleship
EnterpriseD -- New Orleans class battleship

and so on. I have full sized version of the Galaxy, the Excelsior, and the
Sovereign now.

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> Oh, just saw your post on the piccies. BIG thanks! I

I only bought a defiant from him on ebay and then enlarged my order to include
a Sovereign and an Ambassador class ship. I and a friend of mine here in
Atlanta (she's on this list) tend to compete for interesting spaceships on
ebay.

> Don:

I find Bergstrom's ships pretty cool. I've actually thought of using his ships
and the Star Fleet Elite ships to do games on reduced scale with milimeters
for MUs. It would be kind of cute and his ships would be perfect in that
scale. And you could do battlestar galactica and NSEA protector ships since he
does quite respectable versions of them. Frankly I think his coolest miniature
might be the martian war machines painted copper with flourescent green
highlights. I have 12 of them ready if I ever figure out what game to use them
in.

> You have my thanks! I don't know if anyone agreed to the Maquis ship

> . Frankly I think his coolest miniature might