FT-Shiva option/starfire designs- Stardestroyer stats

> Given this, how big must a Star Destroyer be? The mind boggles - ha

It's FT1 stuff but should give you something to go on:
http://www.bifrost.demon.co.uk/games/ft/starwars/Designs/Imperial.gif

Found this site a while back, was amazed when I first saw it!

Jeremey Claridge

> It's FT1 stuff but should give you something to go on:

MAMA!

Wow. Thanks. Eek. Ummm.... Wow.

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> At 8:37 AM -0800 3/5/02, Brian Bilderback wrote:

That's actually missing a few things. Remember a SD carried a complement of
ATATs and ATSTs as well as an entire ground force to go with them. I probably
needs a whole lot more shuttle space and cargo space for said forces. Its also
missing some sort of command structure for A wings to smack into....

Its roughly on par with the Honor Harrington ships when you look at their
sizes (dimensionally) as well as the number of missiles they carry. Heck the
HH missile boats were on the order of Mass 10 or so. Considering the
Harrington Class Carrier carried a whole bunch of those and additional weapons
fit, you'd expect the things to be somewhere on the order of several thousand
mass as well.

Now that's Just Plain Silly....

> Jeremey Claridge wrote:

> > Given this, how big must a Star Destroyer be? The mind boggles - ha

> Randy Stoda Wrote:

> Now that's Just Plain Silly....

No, it's extravagantly silly. then again, so are the size of Star Destroyers
to begin with....

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> At 1:40 AM +0000 3/6/02, Bif Smith wrote:

Perhaps you misunderstod what I was trying to say, it was the LACs that were
at least Mass 10. Not the LAC Carrier.... You've got 15 Mass per LAC. 96 LACs,
thats at least 1440 for the basic compliment of LACs plus weapons, plus
engines, plus massive sensors and all
sorts of other things....3-4000 mass is about right...

> On 5-Mar-02 at 23:01, Ryan Gill (rmgill@mindspring.com) wrote:

> Perhaps you misunderstod what I was trying to say, it was the LACs

This comes up occasionally on the list. If you are gaming in an HH universe
treat LACs as fighters. It works much better.

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> Ryan Gill wrote:

SNIP*
> thats at least 1440 for the basic compliment

Sounds good. When can we expect minis? IN scale with the other lines, of
course... ;-)

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> On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 06:20:34AM -0800, Brian Bilderback wrote:

If that's anything like the IJN ships, we're looking at around four and a half
pounds of lead. Is your gaming table really strong enough?

Are you _sure_?

:-)

> >Sounds good. When can we expect minis? IN scale with the other

Personally I like the miniatures to be worth more than the P&P:)

Jeremey

> Roger Burton West wrote:

> If that's anything like the IJN ships, we're looking at around four and

Well, of white metal at least.....

> Is your gaming table really strong enough?

Since I use the dining room table, probably.

> Are you _sure_?

No, but won't it be fun finding out? ;-)

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> Germ wrote:

> Personally I like the miniatures to be worth more than the P&P :)

Wimps!

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> From: "Germ" <germ@germy.co.uk>

> Personally I like the miniatures to be worth more than the P&P :)

Besides, that can easily be solved..... more expensive minis!

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> On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 06:59:01AM -0800, Brian Bilderback wrote:

The thing which miniatures are made out of is called "lead", just as the
political system under which we live is called "democracy". :-)

> No, but won't it be fun finding out? ;-)

After you've assembled the 23-part casting, of course.

> >If that's anything like the IJN ships, we're looking at around four

Ok so I work out the Star Destroyer to be..... Bare with me working out scales
is not a skill of mine.

So a 1/300th (6mm) Star Destroyer is 533cm long
making a 1/3000th Star Destroyer 53cm long

Does that sound right? If so can I have a resin one instead:)

Jeremey

Roger Burton West

> The thing which miniatures are made out of is called "lead", just as

Thanks, I wasn't aware that the term had become generic like that (Remember,
I'm a gaming hermit - I've seldom had much actual social contact with
other gamers, and bloody few opportunities to ply the hobby).

> >No, but won't it be fun finding out? ;-)

Well, nothing's perfect. ;-)

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> From: "Germ" <germ@germy.co.uk>

> Ok so I work out the Star Destroyer to be.....

Nor mine

> So a 1/300th (6mm) Star Destroyer is 533cm long

Close enough for me.

> If so can I have a resin one instead :-)

Sure, if you find one, tell me where - I want. LOL

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> Germ wrote:

Sadly yes. A 1/3000 scale Super Star Destroyer is 2.65m long. Whereas a
1/3000th TIE fighter is about 2mm high.

> If so can I have a resin one instead :)

How about the plastic kit (ERTL ?). It's about 15" (38cm) long - but
curiously is advertised as being 1/1800th, which is clearly wrong :-/

In message <3C86380C.583E282D@kuju.com>
> Tony Francis <tony.francis@kuju.com> wrote:

> Germ wrote:
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> >

Well, it just so happens I've actually still got one I built as a
teenager - baddly in need of accurizing and a re-paint though :-|

Problem is, I'm not sure I've got enough other ships to oppose it :-)

Or a big enough gaming area....

From: ~ On Behalf Of Brian Bilderback
Sent: 05 March 2002 20:17
Subject: More on Star Wars Ships

> http://www.galacticempiredatabank.com/

Nah, that Eclipse's less than 18 klicks long...

Remember that FT is a generic system. Note the get-out phrase
"in a given background" regards the 100 tonnes to 1 MASS rule on FB1 pg 10.
Bear in mind that in cinematic we throw a large chunk of Newtonian physics out
of the window, and you can paint your ships as large as you wish.

> From the little I recollect of the StarWarts RPG, the Eclipse

Could use the old MPC kit.

Michael Brown

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Actually, my tongue was firmly implanted in my cheek when I said that.

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> From: Michael Brown <mwbrown@sonic.net>

> Could use the old MPC kit.