I am so full of subjects today.....
When I finish painting I name my ships and stick a little printed strip of
paper on the base, there is no official naming ceremony but I like to think
that I can identify the craft and will remember its victories and defeats by
name. I also then use Illustrator to print a copy of the FT ship build
details and print / laminate the result.
My names mostly come from books by Iain Banks (Culture Works), Ian Hamilton
(Nightsdawn) and Stephen Donaldson (Gap Series). These include such great
names as; Tranquil Hegemony, The Ends of Invention, Gut Buster, Lux Interior,
Calm Horizons and No More Mr Nice Guy.
Do any other list members use interesting names for ships - Would you
like to share them? I think it adds a bit of creative fun to a game, having
more than just a number on the base.
I am a big fan of the "Culture" universe created by Banks, so a lot of my
names are pulled from his books. For those interested, here is a complete list
of the, mostly funny, Culture ship names:
(GSV is a "General Systems Vehicle" which is more like a giant city than a
star ship")
Key: GCU - General Contact Unit GOU - General Offensive Unit
GSV - General System Vehicle
LOU - Limited Offensive Unit
LSV - Limited System Vehicle
(D)ROU - (Demilitarized) Rapid Offensive Unit
GSV The Ends Of Invention [ex-Culture]
GSV Bad for Business
GCU Nervous Energy
GSV Irregular Apocalyse
LSV Profit Margin
GCU Prosthetic Conscience
GSV No More Mr Nice Guy
GSV Determinist
GSV Bora Horza Gobuchul
Perfidy Cantankerous
Only Slightly Bent
I Thought He Was With You
Space Monster
A Series Of Unlikely Explanations
Big Sexy Beast
Never Talk To Strangers
It'll Be Over By Christmas
Funny, It Worked Last Time...
Boo!
Ultimate Ship The Second
Thankyou And Goodnight
Excuses And Accusations
Stranger Here Myself
Well I Was In The Neighbourhood
A Ship With A View
Unwitting Accomplice
Helpless In The Face Of Your Beauty
Synchronize Your Dogmas
Just Another Victim Of The Ambient Morality
Arrested Development
Heresiarch Minority
Report Happy Idiot Talk Ablation
God Told Me To Do It
Credibility Problem
You Would If You Really Loved Me
Sacrificial Victim
Not Wanted On Voyage
Undesirable Alien
You'll Thank Me Later
The Precise Nature Of The Catastrope
Halation Effect
Dramatic Exit
GCU Flexible Demeanour
Unfortunate Conflict Of Evidence
(D)ROU Zealot Gunboat Diplomat
GCU Of Course I Still Love You
Just Read The Instructions
GSV Youthful Indiscretion
Little Rascal
clipper
Screw Loose
Limiting Factor Superlifter
Kiss My Ass superlifter
Prime Mover
GSV So Much For Subtlety
Cargo Cult GCU?
> On Tue, Apr 29, 2003 at 01:22:48PM +0100, Robin Fitton wrote:
> Do any other list members use interesting names for ships - Would you
I mostly play in the GZG universe, and I have a fairly extensive list of ship
names for most of the major powers. I don't have enough miniatures that the
same one will always represent the same ship, though, so I just put an ID
number on the base, and record it on the ship record sheet when I print off
the SSDs for the game.
Very boring, alas!
I was thinking the Full Thrust Ship Registry had ships names as well as
designs, but I can't even find the site. Has WWW.FTSR.ORG evaporated?
I know some folks have fleet lists with names on their sites; I think I'll
go surfin'. ;->=
The_Beast
> On Tue, Apr 29, 2003 at 07:43:12AM -0500, devans@nebraska.edu wrote:
> I was thinking the Full Thrust Ship Registry had ships names as well as
Try www.cygnusx1.info.
> I know some folks have fleet lists with names on their sites; I think
> Robin Fitton wrote:
:-)
> When I finish painting I name my ships and stick a little printed
It does, but it also restricts your minis if you want to expand and play other
scenarios that wouldn't necessarily involve those specifically named ships but
would involve those minis.
Some of my ships have names painted right on them. Before I really got into
keeping lists of names for ships. My early NSL BDNs and SDNs have names from
mountains (Pingora, Rainier, Denali, Eiger, etc). My NAC carriers have their
names (and ID #s) painted right on the launching "runway" (Intrepid,
Enterprise, Invincible, etc). It was only after this I realized I wanted to
use the same
minis (as I don't have unlimited numbers of them ;-) in other
scenarios which the names were either not appropriate or did not appear (ie,
such as in a campaign game, the NSL ship "Eiger" might be in one sector of
space, but the scenario being played out is in another sector and the only
mini I have is the one with "Eiger" painted on it).
In the end I put together a file of names for various classes.
Some of them I use for the FB1 ships, others for home-grown
designs. These you can find on my fleet rosters off my FT webpage
> My names mostly come from books by Iain Banks (Culture Works) , Ian
My favorite Culturesque name is: You Look Like a Nail.
That's class, there.
Right now, all of my ships have serial numbers -- M17, X22, B86, and
suchlike.
I have a plan, though, at least for my New Bavarian Republic ships. Each class
will be named after one of the paintings of the great French Surrealist, Rene
Magritte. They make wonderful ship names, and include:
Attempting the Impossible Reconnaissance Without End A Variation of Sadness
After the Water, the Clouds The Art of Conversation The Beneficial Promise
Celestial Perfections The Cultivation of Ideas The Devil's Smile The Dominion
of Light Figure Brooding on Madness Flowers of the Abyss The Garment of
Adventure The Glass Key The Good example Heraclitus's Bridge The Horrendous
Stopper The Importance of Marvels In praise of the Dialectic Lesson from the
Tenebrae The Man in the Bowler Hat The Midnight Marriage The Muscles of the
Sky The Mysteries of the Horizon On the Threshold of Freedom The Ordeal of
Sleep The Phantom Landscape This is not an Apple The Treachery of Images
...and so forth.
> At 1:22 PM +0100 4/29/03, Robin Fitton wrote:
I added some names to a standard cheat sheet for certain types. As I mostly
run NAC, the ship names I tend to use as based on current and past names for
craft. As there is an Invicible class CVL, it stands to reason that the NAC is
using a mix of historical names. Some I've pulled out of history, Black
Prince, Iron Duke for a fast Battle Cruiser model I bashed together, others
are still in use, Hermes. For a FAC tender based loosely on the Invincible,
the class is named Mekong Delta (based on the standard of naming assault ships
for
battles/beach assaults, this works well as that was a key location of
20th century brown water navy ops). Or for other ships that went before, Ocean
Class as the basic assault ship modeled off of the Invicible hull (more bits
added, small single flight deck for 1
fighter group and a big open bay/well deck for landing shuttles.
I also have a Cassin Young and Wainright classes of DDs and DDL/Hs
(Leader/Heavy DD).
A good source of names is www.hazegray.org.
I use historical/current warship names for all my ships. Thus, my FSE
fleet uses names of current and historical French/Italian/Spanish
warships, the NSL uses German and Austro-Hungarian, the NAC American and
British, and so on. Surpisingly, most naval nations have used and reused the
same names since the 18th Century, and continue to do so. I don't expect
things will change all that much in the next couple of hundred years.
-------Original Message-------
From: Robin Fitton <robin@robinf.com>
Sent: 04/29/03 08:22 AM
To: gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu
Subject: FT: Ship Names
> I am so full of subjects today.....
When I finish painting I name my ships and stick a little printed strip of
paper on the base, there is no official naming ceremony but I like to think
that I can identify the craft and will remember its victories and defeats by
name. I also then use Illustrator to print a copy of the FT ship build
details and print / laminate the result.
My names mostly come from books by Iain Banks (Culture Works), Ian Hamilton
(Nightsdawn) and Stephen Donaldson (Gap Series). These include such great
names as; Tranquil Hegemony, The Ends of Invention, Gut Buster, Lux Interior,
Calm Horizons and No More Mr Nice Guy.
Do any other list members use interesting names for ships - Would you
like to share them? I think it adds a bit of creative fun to a game, having
more than just a number on the base.
I am a big fan of the "Culture" universe created by Banks, so a lot of my
names are pulled from his books. For those interested, here is a complete list
of the, mostly funny, Culture ship names:
(GSV is a "General Systems Vehicle" which is more like a giant city than a
star ship")
Key: GCU - General Contact Unit GOU - General Offensive Unit
GSV - General System Vehicle
LOU - Limited Offensive Unit
LSV - Limited System Vehicle
(D)ROU - (Demilitarized) Rapid Offensive Unit
GSV The Ends Of Invention [ex-Culture]
GSV Bad for Business
GCU Nervous Energy
GSV Irregular Apocalyse
LSV Profit Margin
GCU Prosthetic Conscience
GSV No More Mr Nice Guy
GSV Determinist
GSV Bora Horza Gobuchul
Perfidy Cantankerous
Only Slightly Bent
I Thought He Was With You
Space Monster
A Series Of Unlikely Explanations
Big Sexy Beast
Never Talk To Strangers
It'll Be Over By Christmas
Funny, It Worked Last Time...
Boo!
Ultimate Ship The Second
Thankyou And Goodnight
Excuses And Accusations
Stranger Here Myself
Well I Was In The Neighbourhood
A Ship With A View
Unwitting Accomplice
Helpless In The Face Of Your Beauty
Synchronize Your Dogmas
Just Another Victim Of The Ambient Morality
Arrested Development
Heresiarch Minority
Report Happy Idiot Talk Ablation
God Told Me To Do It
Credibility Problem
You Would If You Really Loved Me
Sacrificial Victim
Not Wanted On Voyage
Undesirable Alien
You'll Thank Me Later
The Precise Nature Of The Catastrope
Halation Effect
Dramatic Exit
GCU Flexible Demeanour
Unfortunate Conflict Of Evidence
(D)ROU Zealot Gunboat Diplomat
GCU Of Course I Still Love You
Just Read The Instructions
GSV Youthful Indiscretion
Little Rascal
clipper
Screw Loose
Limiting Factor Superlifter
Kiss My Ass superlifter
Prime Mover
GSV So Much For Subtlety
Cargo Cult GCU?
In keeping with the mass-produced modular nature of the BORON ships for
the OUDF, I've kept the names borongly standard:
Snake Class Frigates: Taipan, Death Adder, Brownsnake, Kingsnake, etc etc
Spider Class Torpedo Frigates: Redback, Funnelweb, Huntsman, Wolf Spider etc
River (in regular fleet), Port (in reserve fleet)Destroyers/Patrol Ships
Fly, Sepik, Swan, Yarra, Hunter, Murray, Guadalcanal.... Freemantle,
Newcastle, Geelong, Port Moresby.....
"N" Class Lt Cruisers Numbat, Narrabeen, Ngunarwal, Nandi, Nuku'alofa...
"T" Class Heavy Cruisers Tuvalu, Tahiti, Tarongah, Townsville, Terror,
Triumph...
"W" class Light Carriers Waikato, Worananora, Wollongong, Waitangi, Wulgaru
Other (non-Boron) ships have traditional names such as
Sydney, Australia, New Zealand, Canberra etc.
Finally, fleet Auxiliaries have names like "Wombat of Destiny", "Potto of
Doom", "Bilby of Nemesis", "Koala of Retribution", "Wallaby of Fortune"
> On Wed, 30 Apr 2003, Alan and Carmel Brain wrote:
> In keeping with the mass-produced modular nature of the BORON ships
[...]
> Finally, fleet Auxiliaries have names like
What, no drop bears??
Mk
G'day,
> In keeping with the mass-produced modular nature of the
That would be the "Koala of Retribution"... I'm still trying to imagine a
Bilby of Nemesis... that's like saying the Easter Bunny of Armageddon!
Cheers
> With the Re- Supply ships Vegimite and F*****s.....)
Now, Don, you should know better than to use that kind of language with our
friends in Oz...
By the way, my personal FH:ESU unit had no names on purpose, as I thought the
Soviet Naval model didn't have official names for DD's and smaller. I think
they only used hull designations, but I could be way off base. There were two
heavy and one escort cruisers in the unit, but they were, in my fluff, ex
officio additions to a Desron, and their 'names' were made to disappear by the
enterprising commander.
By the way, I don't think this made it into Indy's list; probably didn't make
sense with what he had.
I must say, though, that in the case of some non-FH units, I've had
great fun borrowing from Traveller, especially the list of Azhanti High
Lightning class ships. Was it Dolores Hauberk? Gotta love it!
The_Beast
> On Wed, 30 Apr 2003, Alan and Carmel Brain wrote:
> In keeping with the mass-produced modular nature of the BORON ships
[...]
> Finally, fleet Auxiliaries have names like
What, no drop bears??
Mk
With the Re- Supply ships Vegimite and Fosters.....)
> On Wed, 30 Apr 2003 Beth.Fulton@csiro.au wrote:
> G'day,
Ahhhh.
> I'm still trying to imagine a
Well, yes! There is. He has sharp, pointy teeth. A killer of men. Verra nasty.
Mk
> >I'm still trying to imagine a
You haven't read Sluggy Freelance, I take it? The Easter Bunny is a
miniature lop-eared bunny with a Glock, a switchblade, and a Bad
Attitude. Fear the Bun-bun.
Dolorous Hauberk, but you're right, Azhanti High Lightning had some
fascinating ship names. AFAIK the Russians have always named their
destroyers, usually after qualities - e.g. Bravy (brave) or naval heroes
of junior rank - e.g. Leitenant Ilyin. The Germans are the folks who
mostly simply numbered their destroyers. In WWI the letter indicated the
builder, for example S for Schichau,G for Germania, V for Vulkan, and B for
Bloehm and Voss. So S113 for instance, was the 113th destroyer and
it was built by the Schichau yards. The pre-WWII German destroyers were
given both names and numbers such as Z6 Theodor Riedel, but all the
war-built destroyers had simply numbers, prefixed by the letter Z for
"Zerstoerer" (destroyer)like Z25. Germans also numbered torpedo boats (T), and
gunboats (K) although sometimes these were named as well, escorts (G) and
minesweepers (M).
-------Original Message-------
From: devans@nebraska.edu
Sent: 04/29/03 10:35 PM
To: gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu
Subject: Re: FT: Ship Names
> With the Re- Supply ships Vegimite and F*****s.....)
Now, Don, you should know better than to use that kind of language with our
friends in Oz...
By the way, my personal FH:ESU unit had no names on purpose, as I thought the
Soviet Naval model didn't have official names for DD's and smaller. I think
they only used hull designations, but I could be way off base. There were two
heavy and one escort cruisers in the unit, but they were, in my fluff, ex
officio additions to a Desron, and their 'names' were made to disappear by the
enterprising commander.
By the way, I don't think this made it into Indy's list; probably didn't make
sense with what he had.
I must say, though, that in the case of some non-FH units, I've had
great fun borrowing from Traveller, especially the list of Azhanti High
Lightning class ships. Was it Dolores Hauberk? Gotta love it!
The_Beast
> [quoted text omitted]
***
AFAIK the Russians have always named their destroyers, usually after
qualities - e.g. Bravy (brave) or naval heroes of junior rank - e.g.
Leitenant Ilyin.
***
Then I'll get out the Pycckii/English dictionary and crank out some
names
ASAP! ;->-
The_Beast
devans@nebraska.edu schrieb:
> ***
Here's a pretty good web translator for Russian:
http://www.translate.ru/
One for Arabic
http://tarjim.ajeeb.com/ajeeb/default.asp?lang=1
And two able to handle Chinese and Japanese:
http://www.worldlingo.com/products_services/worldlingo_translator.html
http://world.altavista.com/
For ship names of real navies, hazegray is hard to beat:
http://www.hazegray.org/worldnav/
Greetings Karl Heinz
Check out hazegray.org, or get ahold of a copy of Jane's Fighting Ships,
Combat Fleets of the World, or Conway's All the World's Fighting Ships
1946-1997. Fortunately the Russians built a large enough real-world navy
that there are plenty of names.
-------Original Message-------
From: devans@nebraska.edu
Sent: 04/30/03 08:52 AM
To: gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu
Subject: Re: Re: FT: Ship Names
> [quoted text omitted]
***
AFAIK the Russians have always named their destroyers, usually after
qualities - e.g. Bravy (brave) or naval heroes of junior rank - e.g.
Leitenant Ilyin.
***
Then I'll get out the Pycckii/English dictionary and crank out some
names
ASAP! ;->-
The_Beast
> [quoted text omitted]
> Bob Eldridge wrote:
> Check out hazegray.org, or get ahold of a copy of Jane's Fighting
Try older editions of Janes (the WW1 and WW2 editions can be bought from
bargain booksellers in the UK for around £5). These have stacks of old ship
names (especially British, German and French) that are no longer in
use for whatever reason. Battleship names from the turn of the last century
are much more interesting than current warship names. British destroyer
classes generally had names starting with the same letter which is an easy way
to name a class.
Many modern US warships are named after prominent military or government
figures. Assuming this trend continues then you have several centuries
grace in which to make up as many names as you like - doesn't someone
somewhere have a list of NAC destroyers & frigates named for members of this
list (or its predecessor)?
For Chinese names, http://www.geocities.com/jiawen6/Chinesenames.html is
unbeatable.
> Tony Francis wrote:
[...]
> Many modern US warships are named after prominent military or
That would be me. ;-) My Unofficial NAC fleet roster, for my
"Tuffley" class heavy destroyer.
With the Re- Supply ships Vegimite and F*****s.....)
Now, Don, you should know better than to use that kind of language with our
friends in Oz...
Terribly sorry, a very brief lapse into my evil alter ego. Fortunately a
timely visit by a few squads of Narns dispatched from their Melbourne
headquarters caused me to see the error of my ways.
The temporary lapse and political imperfection has been cured, I'm feeling
much better now.....my thanks to all involved.......G'day
Doesn't sound very cricket.
Michael Brown
[quoted original message omitted]
Hmmm, its got bats and you whack things, doesn't that sound like Cricket?:)
--Binhan
> -----Original Message-----
Quite.......)
Doesn't sound very cricket
Michael Brown
[quoted original message omitted]
> On Tue, Apr 29, 2003 at 01:46:07PM +0100, Roger Burton West wrote:
[re fleet lists]
Ok so it's not NSL but how about:
Ben my Chree Nariana
> -----Original Message-----
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