Hey All, I'm just catching up after 3 months of not being able to read
messages (and boy can this list right!), but I need to pick up on a thread
from 2 and a half months ago.
The thread was NAC peerage, but it had names of nobles as in below, but I was
thinking these would make great names for ship designs, and ship names for
actual ones in fleets. For the FTSC, people have requested a name list,
so if people can give me lists of names (preferably from all major - and
minor if available - sides) I can incorporate these into the program.
Optionally, indicate names best suited to classes, and other best suited to
names, though I'd be happy enough with any names.
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The names from the thread Thomas Barclay started were:
Glancing through the list of Canadian Governor Generals alone shows me
Viscount Monck Lord Lisgar Earl of Dufferin
Duke of Argyll/Marquess of Lorne
Marquess of Landsdowne Lord Stanley Earl of Aberdeen Earl of Minto Earl Grey
HRH Duke of Connaught Duke of Devonshire Lord Byng Viscount Willingdon Earl of
Bessborough Lord Tweedsmuir Earl of Athlone Viscount Alexander
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Thanx in advance,
> At 9:38 PM +1000 7/29/01, Andrew Ayres wrote:
At least going by strict British Naval tradition, members of the peerage
aren't normally chosen as Namesakes for warships. The US names ships after
specific individuals that have either performed heroic actions, or have done
great service for the Navy.
The problem with naming for the peerage title is that it will be confusing as
to which one you are speaking of. Iron Duke and Black Prince are exceptions as
those titles were epithets that were taken with honor. There are a few like
Nelson, Jellicoe (became Anson), Beatty (became Howe). One exception I can
find is the Duke of York.
Obviously the King/Queen are excepted (sometimes members of the royal
family) but usually its either descriptive words, Invincible, Indefatigable,
Illustrious, Valiant, Revenge, Terrible etc. Cruisers typically had city names
(London, Devonshire, Sussex, Norfolk, Nottingham, Southampton), or during WWII
some were named for counties (Suffolk, Berwick, Kent, etc). Then there are the
usual spate of Mythological names, Achillies, Ajax. There are also names from
territories. Malaya ( Battleship since they contributed a large sum to the war
effort), New Foundland, Uganda, Cylon, etc.
Typically the names followed a theme. For example the Admiralty S class DD had
Scabre, Saladin, Sardonyx, Scimitar, Scout, Shikari, and the oddball name
Tenedos. Birds are sometimes used as in the Black Swan class of Sloops. Black
Swan, Snipe, Sparrow, Starliong, MAgpie, PEacock, Pheasant, Redpole, Cygnet,
Wren, etc. During WWII, there was also a Castle class named for many castles
(Amberley Castle, Farnham Castle, Oxford Castle, Flint Castle, etc).
The current class of landing ships in the RN use Arthurian names, Sir Galahad,
Sir Bedivere, Sir Lancelot, etc. There are also ships named for forts, leafs
(Oak Leaf, Apple Leaf etc.)
I suspect a correct patter for NAC names would be a combination of US, RN and
RCN practice. Canadian names are interesting in the large use of Native
American (First Nations to you Canadians in the list) names for warship names.
Take a gander over at http://www.hazegray.org/worldnav/ for names.
Its also a great source for Froggie, Eurie and Other names.
What do you name an OU DD? Te Kaha perhaps? Toowoomba maybe?
Just to add to the themes, some of my favs that I have seen over the years in
different settings:
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On Sun, 29 Jul 2001 13:09:23 -0400, Ryan Gill <rmgill@mindspring.com>
wrote:
> I suspect a correct patter for NAC names would be a combination of
The use of First Nations names is already present in the NAC order of battle.
Currently, the modern RCN frigates are named after cities.
The US is big for naming ships after important people, but they also have
connections to states and cities. There are only so many things you can name
ships after, and you usually want to have some sort of connection to the
nation (the British were, of course, exceptions to this with names like you
mentioned, such as Terror, Dreadnought, Golden Hind, Victory).
I always liked the idea of going kind of silly, like naming Superdreadnoughts
after small flowers. I kind of like the idea of someone having to explain why
half their fleet was destroyed by the good ship Pansy, or the Battleship
Buttercup.
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Just picked one at random to reply to here, you have all being a big help. I'm
getting the impression that there is a huge range of options. I think I might
just include 'libraries' so you pick a class library and then the ship in the
Fleet Organizer will get a name at random (maybe with memory so you
don't get repeats, or an option for specifying ones that have died - for
a bit of personalisation).
If anyone wants to put together some lists - simple text files will be
fine
with 1 entry per line - for each line (eg. flowers, nobles, important
people, historical). Also, names for the other major sides would be useful. I
can create base ones for the OU. Australia currently names after cities, and
(I think) significant people. You have the HMS Hobart, Perth, etc, Anzac class
frigates, collins class subs, etc, but if there is someone more knowledgable
on the list about this, could you please put together a list.
Thanks all for your help - oh, and this request also extends to those
who normally exist in deep lurker mode =p
Andrew Ayres mailto:ftshipcreator@bigpond.com
http://ftsc.congdonweb.net
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I've got some interesting FSE names that might be useful
Aldébaran Améthyste Etoile Flamant Fléchette Floréal Léopard Magnifique
Panthère Sagittaire Tigre
I know many of these are very obvious, but they're only suggestions.
I hope these are helpful
> Matthew Smith wrote:
> I've got some interesting FSE names that might be useful
To which I will add:
Montcalm Jean Bart Richelieu Gascogne Ile de France Talleyrand Clemenceau
Charles De Gaulle (Like anyone REALLY needs to mention him) Redoubtable
Provence Bretagne Alsace Lorraine Normandie Picardie Dante Aligheri Conti Di
Cavour Vittorio Veneto Littorio Italia Guilio Cesare Cunibierti
For some really obscure anime references (after bad dubbing into french)
Nautisse Albator Golderak
From: Allan Goodall <awg@sympatico.ca>
> I always liked the idea of going kind of silly, like naming
Might raise morale on the other side, though, at least for the first battle.
"Dread Pirate who?" "Wesley!"
IF Sahaabah class listed at from the names of the Prophet's companions at
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/history/biographies/sahaabah/biographies.h
tml Lead ship in the class is Miqdad ibn al Aswad.
IF DD's are the Saladin class, named after famous generals. The lead
ship is of course Yusuf Salah-ed-Din Ayyub. Others would include Alp
Arslan, Imad-ed-Din Zenghi, and Shirkuh, just to name a few.
The "Muslim victories" (Hattin, Yarmouk etc) have already been mentioned,
although I didn't notice Badr or Ain Jalut on the list.
Sword of Islam is more correctly Saif al Islam. The only other one I've come
up with for that class would be Asad (Lion) al Islam.
No doubt Jon will sooner or later come out with an Islamic SDN (in response to
the PAU Rostovs) and CVA (gotta give those suicidal, er, heroic martyr fighter
pilots something to fly from). We can reasonably call the CVA the Mekkah (with
others being M'dina, possibly Yerushalayim, my inspiration runs low after
that). Taking a lesson from the RN's New Zealand, etc, we might have the
Arabiya Jadid (New Arabia), Misr Jadid (New Egypt), etc.
Andrew,
> On Sun, 29 Jul 2001, Andrew Ayres wrote:
> Hey All,
I have a rather fairly sized file full of ship/class names if you want
it. It's not complete; I'm always adding to it (or adding to another file that
someday will get added to the main file ;-). I also have online a set of
fleet rosters for the major powers (the UNSC is still being worked on -
but that's been put on hold for a while until I get another major project
finished up later this year). It has names you can freely draw from for other
ship designs for said powers. The URL is: