FT: Ship designs

8 posts ยท Feb 11 2002 to Feb 14 2002

From: Brian Bilderback <bbilderback@h...>

Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 12:43:07 -0800

Subject: FT: Ship designs

A couple of questions:

1. I was considering a new class of ship, the Destroyer Escort (DE). It would
be in the same mass range as the DD or CL, and would sacrifice offensive
firepower for increased PDS and ADFC capability. Has anyone tried this before,
and if so, how well does it work?

2. A while back, I bookmarked the site where the ship generation program is,
but since it's a downloadable file and I can't download at work, is there any
site with an ONLINE generation program, like the DSII one at Andy Cowell's
site?

2B^2

From: Roger Burton West <roger@f...>

Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 20:57:42 +0000

Subject: Re: FT: Ship designs

> On Mon, Feb 11, 2002 at 12:43:07PM -0800, Brian Bilderback wrote:
It
> would be in the same mass range as the DD or CL, and would sacrifice

See recent posts on the use of small ships (thread starting with "I'm in love
with Pulse Torpedoes (and tactics question)" in the archives). An
anti-fighter ship is likely to be the target of concerted beam attacks
from the enemy; also, if it's keeping in formation, it won't be able to use
any high thrust it might have.

From: Brian Bilderback <bbilderback@h...>

Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 13:04:47 -0800

Subject: Re: FT: Ship designs

> Roger Burton West wrote:

> >1. I was considering a new class of ship, the Destroyer Escort (DE).
 It
> >would be in the same mass range as the DD or CL, and would sacrifice

I was thinking more along the lines of using it in scenarios that call for
small ships only both sides - not fleet actions involving the big boys.

That reduces the amount of spare fire the enemy can afford to direct it's way.
But it's somehting to consider, thanks.

2B^2

From: Derek Fulton <derekfulton@b...>

Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 02:54:07 +1100

Subject: Re: FT: Ship designs

> At 12:43 11/02/02 -0800, 2B^2 wrote:
It
> would be in the same mass range as the DD or CL, and would sacrifice

I have a River Class Destroyer Escort for my OUDF Navy, although the design
isn't posted on my OU section on our site it is in the Excel workbook you can
download. As to how it works? Well, time will tell. But it does have 6 PDS and
2 ADFC:)

Cheers

From: Oerjan Ohlson <oerjan.ohlson@t...>

Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 19:12:49 +0100

Subject: Re: FT: Ship designs

> 2B^2 wrote:

> 1. I was considering a new class of ship, the Destroyer Escort (DE).
It
> would be in the same mass range as the DD or CL, and would sacrifice

Yes. There's even one in the FBs - the NSL CL in FB1, the Kronprinz
Wilhelm class, has a more specialized ADFC version with 5 PDSs.

Remember that the area defence ship can only protect one friendly ship per
ADFC per turn.

> and if so, how well does it work?

Generally speaking I'm not too impressed by ships which drops *all*
anti-ship armament for PDS+ADFC - an enemy which *doesn't* rely on
fighters
or missiles will simply ignore it. DDEs armed with some anti-ship
weapons in addition to the point defences are a lot more flexible.

How well they work, well... in small battles there usually aren't very many
fighters or missiles around, so a DDE can work well. In larger battles small
ships make themselves priority targets (eg. by demonstrating ADFC capability
when the enemy wants to use fighters) tend to not last very
long :-/

Later,

From: Brian Bilderback <bbilderback@h...>

Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 11:10:11 -0800

Subject: Re: FT: Ship designs

> Derek Fulton wrote:

> I have a River Class Destroyer Escort for my OUDF Navy, although the

I still plan to use the DE designation, I'm just not sure what mission it will
be designed for.

2B^2

From: Ray Forsythe <erf2@g...>

Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 17:44:59 -0500

Subject: Re: FT: Ship designs

> Brian Bilderback wrote:

> 2. A while back, I bookmarked the site where the ship generation

> work, is there any site with an ONLINE generation program, like the

There's a nice Java based one here:

http://netnow.micron.net/%7Eericski/jship/index.html

From: Brian Bilderback <bbilderback@h...>

Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 14:53:02 -0800

Subject: Re: FT: Ship designs

> Ray Forsythe wrote:

Been there. Thanks.

2B^2