FT Scenario - Dragon Twins

10 posts · Jan 11 1998 to Jan 15 1998

From: Jeremy Sadler <jsadler@e...>

Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 17:55:30 +1100

Subject: Re: FT Scenario - Dragon Twins

> a Scenario

And, I dare say, fertile ground for Stargrunt and Dirtside scenarios...
:)

(Let me think a while.. <grin>)

From: Brian Bell <bkb@b...>

Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 00:17:01 -0800

Subject: FT Scenario - Dragon Twins

Dragon Twins a Scenario by Brian Bell For the Full Thrust™ war game

Five worlds of Japanese and Chinese decent have quietly formed a plan to claim
independence from the Eurasian Solar Union (ESU). These are unhappy with the
Russian dominance fo the ESU. They have quietly been gathering old warships
and refitting them with new weapns and systems. Also, they have maneuvered key
people into the ESU chain of command. Quietly, it has been made known that if
the forces of the Twin Dragon worlds can stand off the 1783rd attack group,
they will be ignored (not granted autonomy, but not brought under submission).

The game area should be about 4x6' (2 long tables side by side). The Twin
Dragon player may place a planet (6" diameter) on the board anywhere on his
side and 5 asteroids anywhere on the table. He must setup his ships within 2'
of the planet. The ESU player will enter on the far side of the table at a
velocity of less than 6.

Specail Rules: To attack the Planetary forces, they must enter orbit.

Twin Dragon Forces:

Planetary Forces 4 Fighter Flights 10 Missiles

4 Muscle class Destroyers Muscle class Destroyer Steven Guffey Mass: 18 Type:
Escort Clas: Destroyer Move: 8 FTL: Std Tech: Human Hull: Military Strm: None
Prot: 1 Screen Cost: 141 Damg: 9
 4
 5
Syst:
 FCS
 Screen
 A Beam PFS
 A Beam PFS

4 Andropov class Missile Destroyers Andropov class Missile Destroyer Roger
Burton West Mass: 14 Type: Escort Clas: Destroyer Move: 8 FTL: Std Tech: Human
Hull: Military Strm: None Prot: None Cost: 86 Damg: 7
 3
 4
Syst:
 FCS
 C Beam PFS
 Missile
 Missile
 Missile

2 Binghampton class Cruisers Binghamton class Lt Cruiser Brian Bell Mass: 22
Type: Cruiser Clas: Lt Cruiser Move: 8 FTL: Std Tech: Human Hull: Military
Strm: None Prot: 1 Screen Cost: 198 Damg: 11
 3
 4
 4
Syst:
 FCS
 FCS
 Screen
Pulse Torpedo
 C Beam PFS
 C Beam PFS
 C Beam PFS
 1 Canton class Cruiser Canton class Wave Cruiser Brian Bell Mass: 32 Type:
Cruiser Clas: Heavy Cruiser Move: 8 FTL: Std Tech: Human Hull: Military Strm:
None Prot: Reflex Cost: 294 Damg: 16
 5
 5
 6
Syst:
 FCS
 FCS
 Reflex Field
 Wave Gun
 1 Cincinnati class Cruiser Cincinnati class Wave Cruiser Brian Bell Mass: 32
Type: Cruiser Clas: Heavy Cruiser Move: 8 FTL: Std Tech: Human Hull: Military
Strm: None Prot: 1 Screen Cost: 294 Damg: 16
 5
 5
 6
Syst:
 FCS
 FCS
 Screen
 Wave Gun
 C Beam PFS
 C Beam PFS
 C Beam PFS
Â

ESU Forces:

3 Brezhnev class Escort Cruiser Brezhnev class Escort Cruiser Roger Burton
West Mass: 26 Type: Cruiser Clas: Escort Cruiser Move: 4 FTL: Std Tech: Human
Hull: Military Strm: None Prot: 1 Screens Cost: 197 Damg: 13
 4
 4
 5
Syst:
 FCS
 FCS
 Screen
 A Beam PFS
 A Beam PFS
 A Beam PFS
 PDAF

1 Gorbachov class Battleruiser Gorbachov class Battlecruiser Roger Burton West
Mass: 40 Type: Capital Clas: Battlecruiser Move: 4 FTL: Std Tech: Human Hull:
Military Strm: None Prot: 2 Screens Cost: 388 Damg: 20
 5
 5
 5
 5
Syst:
 FCS
 FCS
 FCS
 Screen
 Screen
 A Beam PFS
 A Beam PFS
 A Beam PFS
 A Beam PFS
 PDAF
 PDAF
 1 Kirov class Battlecruiser Kirov class Battlecruiser Roger Burton West
Mass: 40 Type: Capital Clas: Battlecruiser Move: 4 FTL: Std Tech: Human Hull:
Military Strm: None Prot: 2 Screens Cost: 382 Damg: 20
 5
 5
 5
 5
Syst:
 FCS
 FCS
 FCS
 Screen
 Screen
 A Beam PFS
 A Beam PFS
 Fighter
 PDAF
 PDAF
 1 New Rome class Superdreadnought New Rome class Superdreadnought Brian Bell
Mass: 82 Type: Capital Clas: Superdreadnought Move: 2 FTL: Std Tech: Human
Hull: Military Strm: None Prot: 3 Screens Cost: 593 Damg: 41
 10
 10
 10
 11
Syst:
 FCS
 FCS
 FCS
 Screen
 Screen
 Screen
AA Mega Gun F AA Mega Gun F
 A Beam PFS
 A Beam PFS
 A Beam PFS
 Missile
 Missile
 Missile
 Missile
 Missile
 PDAF
 PDAF
 PDAF

From: Steve Pugh <steve@p...>

Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 19:48:37 +0000

Subject: Re: FT Scenario - Dragon Twins

Damn! Sent this to Brian not the list, first time round, sorry Brian.

> Dragon Twins

Minor background niggles:

1. The ESU is Chinese dominated not Russian (Stargrunt II page 65, second
paragraph in the Timeline section).

2. Japan is not part of the ESU.

3. The idea of Chinese and Japanese colonies co-operating is, um,
interesting..... Especially considering the way that old animosities seem to
form the basis of a lot of the GZG universe background.

Nice scenario though.

Cheers,

From: Brian Bell <bkb@b...>

Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 16:00:02 -0800

Subject: Re: FT Scenario - Dragon Twins

> Minor background niggles:
I don't have Stargrunt II. I was basing this on FT Background (FT page 43 year
2127). This states "The balance of power within the ESU shifts away from
Chinese

domination as the Union Government is moved from Earth
to the mainly Russian-settled Nova Moskva".

> 2. Japan is not part of the ESU.
I acknowledge this. I made an asumption that the governments had not
"ethnically cleansed" thier states. These planets could have been colonies
that were absorbed by the ESU. Or just happen to have maily Asiatic ancestry.

> 3. The idea of Chinese and Japanese colonies
I agree. However, I can envision an Asiatic alliance to teach these gaijin
<sp> a lesson.

From: Jonathan Jarrard <jjarrard@f...>

Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 09:03:18 -0500

Subject: Re: FT Scenario - Dragon Twins

I like the justification for the scenario. It's plausible and provides a good
excuse for a meeting engagement.

A couple of commnets, though. Where are a bunch of outer colony worlds going
to get hold of a specialized battle platform like a wave cruiser? I can't see
any of the major powers letting one go without disarming it, and even if they
did find one somewhere, how would they get the expertise to maintain it?

It also seems like maybe you would want to include a couple of improvised
civilian hulls, armed with either missiles or SMPs, and the fighters should
probably count as rookie squadrons, if only because of a lack of command and
control.

From: TEHughes@a...

Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 16:38:35 EST

Subject: Re: FT Scenario - Dragon Twins

In a message dated 98-01-12 09:11:03 EST, you write:

<< I like the justification for the scenario. It's plausible and provides a
good excuse for a meeting engagement.

A couple of commnets, though. Where are a bunch of outer colony worlds going
to get hold of a specialized battle platform like a wave cruiser?

I can't see any of the major powers letting one go without disarming it, and
even if they did find one somewhere, how would they get the expertise to
maintain it?
> [quoted text omitted]
real simple --

In the Civil War, the southerern sympathesizers were the buereaucrats who the
sent major amounts of military supplies south untill the war actually started
(stories are that it didn't stop until well after the war started.) A few good
men & women in the personnel and supply branches would let you start out
remarkable well armed and staffed - at least for the first engagement or
so!

From: Brian Bell <bkb@b...>

Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 17:50:59 -0800

Subject: Re: FT Scenario - Dragon Twins

> A couple of commnets, though. Where are a bunch of outer colony
If you don't like the Wave guns, substitute 2 pulse torpedos for each wave
gun. However, you will also need to add fighters or missiles on the planet as
compensation.

> It also seems like maybe you would want to include a couple of
I plan to do this as a differnt scenario. However, you
can add some Q-Ships with missiles instead of on the
planet if you remove the Wave Guns.

From: Jonathan Jarrard <jjarrard@f...>

Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 09:56:45 -0500

Subject: Re: FT Scenario - Dragon Twins

> TEHughes wrote:

That's true, but if you look at present day attempts to get hold of cutting
edge technology by Third World countries it's just not that
easy.  Even when they get the stuff they often can't get/keep it
running.

However, I see your point. The British built some of the most powerful
ocean-going ironclads in the world for Brazil and Chile last century,
and then had to deal with some of them when they went rogue.

From: Haun, Gilles, SSG <haung@E...>

Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 10:39:41 -0500

Subject: RE: FT Scenario - Dragon Twins

> ----------
Snip
> Also, the south aquired some of their equipment by seizing Union

There's also the possibility of puchases through mercenary channels: Seems
anything's possible if you put some thought to it.

From: Denny Graver <den_den_den@t...>

Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 17:34:23 GMT

Subject: RE: FT Scenario - Dragon Twins

Re: A couple of commnets, though. Where are a bunch of outer colony worlds
going to get hold of a specialized battle platform like a wave cruiser?

The discovery of a wrecked alien (?) craft on the third moon was the
starting point - subsequent research and development produced the wave

gun - plus it fits in with the 'Dragon' theme.

Just a wild thought:D