I find the idea of raiders in campains very useful, just from the amount of
resources that have to be diverted to defend against them, because if you
don`t, the lost of your resources can be devistating. In a simple senario, a
raider is either picking on something it outclasses, or is being hunted by
something that outclasses it totally. The only real life example of a faily
even raider Vs hunter battle that comes to mind is the WW2 graf spey(cant
spell) being hunted by the RN cruisers.
As to JHs comments about dreadnought BB`s, I have actually designed and played
with all big gun ships, and my fave was using turreted K guns and
multi layered PH armour, to get the WW1 feel. As for the other comment about
modern navy ships Vs WW2 ships, you don`t even have to go to that extreem for
a example. Just look at the end of WW2, with the carriers outclassing BBs
(thinking of a specific engaugement when the japs decoyed away the big
carrriers, and the BBs managed to get close in restrictive waters in a island
chain, name escapes me at the moment).
BIF
> david smith wrote:
> I find the idea of raiders in campains very useful, just from the
KMS Graf Spee, battle happened near the mouth of the River Plate (sp?), near
Montevideo in S. America.
> As to JHs comments about dreadnought BB`s, I have actually designed
What did you come up with as a system for turreting K-guns, (in terms of
formula for mass and NPV)? I have been tinkering, but haven't come up with
anything satisfactory.
BTW, I always felt that the ablative "armor" of the fleet books is more
representative of wet navy "underwater protection", like torpedo bulges,
wet-dry spaces, and compartmentalized multiple hulls. MT KraVak
"Integral Armor" seemed better to represent the belt and citadel.
PS, any ideas for an "all or nothing" type armor arrangement?
> As for the other comment about modern navy ships Vs WW2 ships, you
That was someone else trying to make an OTT example of range advantage.
> for a example. Just look at the end of WW2, with the carriers
Leyte Gulf in the Philippines. But the Japanese decoyed away the entire
US task group (CVs, CVBs, BBs, BBFs and fast escorts) and got battleships and
battlecruisers to attack CVEs, CLs and DDs off the Leyte
landing beaches.
The previous day ( I think), another Japanese force of BBs was engaged at
Surigao (sp?) Strait (also in Philippines), and got their "T" crossed
by a couple of squadrons of older USN BBs (including 6 of the 8
sunk/crippled at Pearl Harbor).
The third Japanese task group was turned back at San Bernadino Strait (again,
Philippines).
J
> What did you come up with as a system for turreting K-guns, (in
Not directly relevant, but the Weapons / Defenses Archive
(http://nift.firedrake.org/NIFT.html) has a variety of systems, most
of which were discussed on the List. Caveat: Not all are tested or balanced.
Yo may find something which interests you there.
> From: Jared Hilal <jlhilal@yahoo.com>
. The only real life example of a faily even
> raider Vs hunter battle that comes to mind is the WW2 graf spey(cant
> near Montevideo in S. America.
That was the battle, just didn`t have my reference books handy (also, busy on
"real life"TM).
> As to JHs comments about dreadnought BB`s, I have actually designed
I use a design that allows a ship to have a hull, with the drives attached,
and 4 secondary hulls that are the turrets which are designed as separate
ships attached to the main hull with t=1 drives for rotation as the turrets.
As to which get hit, I use a simple tohit roll with a d6.
> BTW, I always felt that the ablative "armor" of the fleet books is more
> representative of wet navy "underwater protection", like torpedo
I feel the PH armour better to represent the heavier armour Vs heavier guns
of the DNs/SDs (after all, a 6"CL gun isn`t going to go through the
armour belt of a KGV class BB is it?).
> PS, any ideas for an "all or nothing" type armor arrangement?
How about the idea I had for the superconducting interweave armour I had a
while back (I think it`s in the WDA). Please note, crazy ideas and daft names
my speciallity <G>.
> As for the other comment about modern navy ships Vs WW2 ships, you
How about for a range example CVs Vs BBs in WW2.
> for a example. Just look at the end of WW2, with the carriers
> island chain, name escapes me at the moment).
It was the second engaugement I was thinking of (like I said, reference books
not handy <G>).
BIF