[FT] Point value for the NAC Valley Forge SDN

6 posts ยท Oct 26 1998 to Oct 27 1998

From: Nathan Pettigrew <nathanp@M...>

Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 14:54:50 -0800

Subject: [FT] Point value for the NAC Valley Forge SDN

Working on a little project (to be posted to the web soon) and noticed that I
was getting different point values from the FTFB when I put the Valley Forge
SDN into Jared Noble's v0.3 construction spreadsheet.

I'm getting 624 points versus the book's 642. Sounds like a simple
transposed number, but I wanted to have others double-check the math.

Added it up outside the spreadsheet and get the same. Am I missing something
or is it really a typo. Didn't see anything in the FTFB Errata about it.

Thank you kindly, Nathan

mass points hull 190 190 hull integ 57 114 ftl 19 38 thrust 4 38 76 2 class 1
2 6 2 class 2 6 18 3 class 3 18 54 2 pt 8 24 4 pds 4 12 3 fcs 3 12 2 fighter g
18 36 1 screen 10 30 armor 7 14

                624

From: Chris Lowrey <clowrey@p...>

Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 17:31:31 -0600

Subject: Re: [FT] Point value for the NAC Valley Forge SDN

> Working on a little project (to be posted to the web soon) and noticed
Just a question - how does one go about getting Jared Noble's
spreadsheet for FTFB?

From: Nathan Pettigrew <nathanp@M...>

Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 15:54:22 -0800

Subject: RE: [FT] Point value for the NAC Valley Forge SDN

I picked it up at the FT Computer Core. A very handy place with many nice
things.

http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Station/3565/index.html

> -----Original Message-----

From: Jared E Noble <JNOBLE2@m...>

Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 15:18:49 -1000

Subject: Re: [FT] Point value for the NAC Valley Forge SDN

There are a couple of gotcha's with my spreadsheet- Especially on the
'Solve for Mass' page - such as armor not being handled correctly and
some screwy costing on the fighters (such as not paying for the bays.) There
are also some rounding issues that become significant when designing small
ships. I have gotten productive input from several people, as well as
fixed a couple of things on my own - I plan to gather all these updates
together an re-release the spreadsheet.  Actually I planned to do that 2
weeks ago but things got hectic here. I'll see if I can't get a fixed version
out in the next couple of days. I will post an announcement to have those
interested contact me, as well as sending an updated version to the FT
Computer Core.

Sorry for the errors and confusion they cause. I notice a difference of 18
pts between what you say it should be and what the spreadsheet says  -
Your 2 fighter bays are not being paid for, I believe.

Nathan Pettigrew <nathanp@MICROSOFT.com> on 10/26/98 12:54:50 PM

Please respond to FTGZG-L@bolton.ac.uk

To:   "FTGZG-L (E-mail)" <FTGZG-L@bolton.ac.uk>
cc:    (bcc: Jared E Noble/AAI/ARCO)
Subject:  [FT] Point value for the NAC Valley Forge SDN

Working on a little project (to be posted to the web soon) and noticed that I
was getting different point values from the FTFB when I put the Valley Forge
SDN into Jared Noble's v0.3 construction spreadsheet.

I'm getting 624 points versus the book's 642. Sounds like a simple
transposed number, but I wanted to have others double-check the math.

Added it up outside the spreadsheet and get the same. Am I missing something
or is it really a typo. Didn't see anything in the FTFB Errata about it.

Thank you kindly, Nathan

     mass points
hull 190 190
hull integ     57   114
ftl  19   38
thrust 4  38   76
2 class 1 2    6
2 class 2 6    18
3 class 3 18   54
2 pt 8 24
4 pds	  4    12
3 fcs	  3    12
2 fighter g    18   36
1 screen  10   30
armor	  7    14

          624

From: Oerjan Ohlson <oerjan.ohlson@t...>

Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 08:11:45 +0100

Subject: Re: [FT] Point value for the NAC Valley Forge SDN

Nathan Pettigrew miscalculated:

> I'm getting 624 points versus the book's 642. Sounds like a simple

> mass points

No. Fighter bays cost 3xMass, plus fighters - here are your missing 18
pts.

> 1 screen 10 30

But since the fighter bays should cost 54 points, not 36, you get 624 +
18 = 642 pts. Problem solved! :-)

Regards,

From: Eric Fialkowski <ericski@m...>

Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 06:15:32 -0700

Subject: Re: [FT] Point value for the NAC Valley Forge SDN

I encountered a similar problem when working on my ship builder. Here's a
table of masses and costs that I hope will help:

type mass cost
Empty	      9    27	 (this is used in all of the ship designs in the
book)
Standard      9    45
Heavy	      9    57
Fast	      9    51
Interceptor   9    45
Attack	      9    51
Long Range    9    51
Torpedo       9    63

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