FT: One question, was THEY CAME! THEY CAME!!!!!!

OK, I read through FT, FB!, and part of FB2. One wuestion. According to
FB2, K-1's can be used in PDS mode and kill 1 fighter on a roll of 5 or
6.
Given the rest of the games rules, is it reasonable to assume they kill a
HEAVY fighter on a roll of 6 only?

2B^2

> At 07:43 11/02/02 -0800, 2B^2 wrote:

Possibly not, heavy fighters are protected as per a level 1 screen, and
screens don't effect k-guns.

Cheers

> On 11-Feb-02 at 10:51, Derek Fulton (derekfulton@bigpond.com) wrote:
According to
> >FB2, K-1's can be used in PDS mode and kill 1 fighter on a roll of 5

I'm going to have to disagree here. The book says they are protected similarly
to a screen, not as a screen. I believe it says they are more strongly
constructed.

As a point of reference those Kra'Vak shotgun things kill 1-6 fighters
or half that many heavy fighters. I read this one two nights ago trying to
figure out how to deal with Kra'Vak.

> Roger Books wrote:

> > At 07:43 11/02/02 -0800, 2B^2 wrote:
According
> to

That's how I read it too - stroger hulls, armor, just all-around more
robust
- not necessarily screened.  That's why I was thinking the L-1 kill on 6

only would be a valid assumption.

2B^2

> At 10:55 11/02/02 -0500, Roger Books wrote:

Yes it does say that and more to the point it says "When heavy fighters are
attacked, treat them as if they had LEVEL-1 SCREENS in operation"

> As a point of reference those Kra'Vak shotgun things kill 1-6 fighters

This is why I said possibly, since there's a inconsistency here. The simplest
way around it is to make sure both you and your opponent are in

agreement about what you want:)

Cheers

> --- Brian Bilderback <bbilderback@hotmail.com> wrote:
... One Question. According to
> FB2, K-1's can ... kill 1 fighter on a roll of 5 or
...is it reasonable
> to assume they kill a HEAVY fighter on a roll of 6

Brian, While I cannot speak for all, I would play the rule as written, I.E.
one fighter is lost for any
5 or 6 rolled reguardless of type.   All fighters have
only one damage point, K1s do one damage point; therefor the fighter is lost.

Bye for now,

> John Leary wrote:

> Brian,

I won't be playing with or against KV for a while, so it's more of a curiosity
thing than a practical game app question for now....

All fighters have
> only one damage point,

That doesn't quite mesh with the fighter descriptions, which state that HEAVY
fighters are tougher, harder to kill. I know that it's simulated by treating
them as having a screen, but the book does say that they do have more robust
structures than basic fighters.

K1s do one damage point;
> therefor

If other weapons have their ability to kill a fighter reduced if it's a heavy
fighter, it still seems reasonable to allow for the same when using
K-1's.

2B^2

> 2B^2 wrote:

> OK, I read through FT, FB!, and part of FB2. One wuestion. According

No. Class-1 Beam Batteries and Class-1 K-guns both ignore the Heavy
modification.

Regards,

> Oerjan Ohlson wrote:

> No. Class-1 Beam Batteries

Missed that part.

and Class-1 K-guns both ignore the Heavy
> modification.

That makes this part make more sense.

2B^2

In message <5.1.0.14.0.20020212030343.05ff2260@mail.bigpond.com>
> Derek Fulton <derekfulton@bigpond.com> wrote:

> At 10:55 11/02/02 -0500, Roger Books wrote:

Err... actually, in the FB2 description of Heavy Fighters it just states
(for attacks by beam-type PDS) ".. rolls of "4" have no effect", with no
actual mention of screens.
I'd personally take the list consensious (IIRC) that B-1 kill heavy
fighters as if they were normal fighters as guidance here, and assume
K-1s work the same vs. both heavy and normal fighters.
[snip]
> Cheers

> At 06:48 11/02/02 +0000, Charles wrote:

I was quoting from MORE THRUST, so I suppose FB2 takes precedence:)

Cheers