The 'Fleet Book 4' web site created by Alan Brain has the specs for some new
Kra'Vak ship models. Are these the start
of a second Kra'Vak nation/culture as speculated about
recently?
If not, I suggest that the single main gun cruisers (not the battleship)
*ought* to be the start of a new fleet and not mixed in with those from FB2.
They look sufficiently different to be from a major clan grouping or perhaps
even a second Dominion.
The new 'spinal mount' design style is presumably to carry one bigger K gun
instead of a pair, and strengthen the all round fire. Applying this to other
Kra'Vak designs you could have:
Da'Kak/Di'Tok equivalents: one K3, extra K1.
Vo'Bok/Si'Tek: one K4, extra K1. Or perhaps (gasp) a couple
of points of armour? The light ships in a small battle may spend a lot of time
pinging away with K1s while circling for position, and a bit of armour would
help.
Va'Dok: one K6, extra K1 for a dedicated strike ship, or one K5, two extra K1,
extra scattergun for a general purpose heavy cruiser.
Ti'Dak/Ko'Vol: one K6 and pair of 2-arc K2.
Do'San/Ko'San: K6 and three more K1, or perhaps K5 and three
K2.
Lo'Vok: replace all four heavy K-guns by a K6, a second
hangar, and pair of 2-arc K2.
Yu'Kas: Hmm. One K20? :-) Maybe the new Kra'Vak just don't
have ships this big.
cheers,
Hi all,
Does anyone have the URL for Alan's site where these Kra' Vak designs are
posted?
Cheers,
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If not, I suggest that the single main gun cruisers (not the battleship)
*ought* to be the start of a new fleet and not mixed in with those from FB2.
They look sufficiently different to be from a major clan grouping or perhaps
even a second Dominion.
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I thought that one explanation was these were 'war' designs, based on
experiences with hu'man designs.
The_Beast
> Hugh wrote:
> The 'Fleet Book 4' web site created by Alan Brain has the
Who knows? <g> The UNDIA doesn't, that's for sure... they *suspect* (or
*fear*) that this may be the case, but they don't *know*.
(Unfortunately the FB4 site has limited space for background blurbs -
the To'Ki blurb was truncated, and some of the current blurbs for the missing
designs are even longer that that one. Which is one of the reasons why they
and their corresponding designs haven't been posted yet; the other reason
being me having intermittent access problems with the Magrathea server.)
> If not, I suggest that the single main gun cruisers (not
Lots of human nations have combined forces against the Kra'Vak, including
fighting in mix-nation task forces, and several of the minor human
nations buy warships from more than one major supplier. Why wouldn't the
Kra'Vak
clans combine forces against the humans, or buy ships from one another? If
they do, would humanity be able to tell the different KV clans apart?
On a more practical note, I'm not planning to sculpt any more
centre-line-gun KV designs within the foreseeable future. However, the
KV range is very modular and Jon sells the individual KV bits separately if
you ask him nicely, so you shouldn't have any trouble kitbashing any larger
centre-line-gun ships you want just like Eric Fialkowski and I've done
(the
latest KV models are all based on my old KV kit-bashes)!
> Da'Kak/Di'Tok equivalents: one K3, extra K1.
Sounds very much like the To'Ki (FT425) class already shown on the FB4
site, no? (The To'Ki is almost exactly the same size as the Da'Kak -
slightly larger, in fact.)
Later,
> Oerjan Ohlson wrote:
> Lots of human nations have combined forces against the Kra'Vak,
If
> they do, would humanity be able to tell the different KV clans apart?
I'm sure the Kra'Vak clans would combine against the humans, but in some?
many? cases it may not be any more harmonious than the NAC and ESU! "Once
we've dealt with these disgusting hairy creatures your entire clan are history
pal!" "Oh yeah?"...
As for telling them apart, IMHO the centre line designs DO look quite
different to the current Kra'Vak. We've already got five 'official' human
fleets and more on the way, each with their own characteristics. I know it's a
science fiction cliche (for television anyway) that aliens are all homogenous
and unified,
unlike the diverse humans, but it's not compulsory :-)
I just got back from a convention and my imagination is running in high gear.
This was an idea I thought worth throwing around. (Expect a few more!)
> On a more practical note, I'm not planning to sculpt any more
Will give it a go, but first I've got to finish my B5 Shadows, and then some
modified NAC...
> Hugh Fisher wrote:
> >Lots of human nations have combined forces against the Kra'Vak,
Sure. But since all humanity knows about the KV so far are the ten years of
fighting against them when they have mostly been united, the "official"
background says virtually nothing about them.
> As for telling them apart, IMHO the centre line designs DO look
Just like the FSE SC, CT, FF and newest DD (the FT425 Hydra) look very
different from all other FSE ships; and also just like the ESU BC, BB, BDN
and CVL have a distinctly different look than the lighter ESU ships -
and
the two ESU super-heavies have a third very distinct style all of their
own. Why should the KV clan or clans on the human-Dominion border have a
so much more homogenous and unified ship design style than two of the major
human powers? Why can't they have two or three distinctly different styles in
a single navy too, like these humans do?
> We've already got five 'official' human fleets and more on the way,
I don't question that the KV are split up into multiple clans - indeed,
FB2 explicitly says that they are. I *am*, however, seriously questioning the
need for explicitly describing all of those clans in an official Fleet
Book; I'd much rather let each player create his/her own designs and
kit-bash/convert/scratch-build/sculpt his/her own models to represent
those designs.
Later,