[FT] Memo to St Jon

From: "Eric Fialkowski" <ericski@spro.net>

> Parts:

Memo to Jon: What about making this an "official kit", possibly by frommaging
one of the molds? Maybe one where the detail to be removed has already lost
its crispness?

> Memo to Jon : What about making this an "official kit", possibly by

Might sound too much like 'order bitz from our boyz' as in the evil empire
(tm). ;->=

Still, Eric deserves credit for a fine looking special ship; praises for the
fluff, likewise. Why did the name 'Lyran' keep coming into my
head...

> Also, maybe asking which parts of the SDN were missing, and which parts

With some of the US kits, it was difficult to tell what should have been
there, and what were the assembly steps. And, as he's already used the
extras, he'd just have to figure how to bash with the new stuff. ;->=

The_Beast

On Tue, 6 Jan 2004 05:45:51 -0600 Doug Evans <devans@nebraska.edu>
wrote:

> Memo to Jon: What about making this an "official kit", possibly by

> Might sound too much like 'order bitz from our boyz' as in the evil

Oh, no, because you can rely on Jon, both to be prepared to send you the bits
you want, and to actually send you the stuff! The Evil Empire has trouble
finding its own backside in its Official Catalogue(tm), and then usually won't
send you the crap it supposedly sells because... oh, I dunno; from some of the
excuses I've been given over the years, I think it's because the Trollz get
PMS on a weekly basis.

GZG, though, seem to actually want to do business with their customers, and I
have proof in the form of several "unofficial" kitbashed models ranging from
BCs to a uberSDN, most of which were assembled from loose parts supplied at my
request. There's no comparison, really.

Phil
----
"Sic Transit Gloria Barramundi" (Or, So Long and Thanks for All the Fish!)

> On Tue, 2004-01-06 at 02:37, Alan and Carmel Brain wrote:

> Memo to Jon : What about making this an "official kit", possibly by

I think a modified weapon sponson would be better. A little built up area
(maybe 2mm thick) with a peg to fit the old base mounting hole and a new
mounting hole on the underside.

> Also, maybe asking which parts of the SDN were missing, and which

While thank you for trying to get me the missing parts, I'd feel guilty since
I got the kit at cost from the hobby shop I worked at.

Phillip Atcliffe <Phillip.Atcliffe@uwe.ac.uk> írta:

> On Tue, 6 Jan 2004 05:45:51 -0600 Doug Evans
...
> GZG, though, seem to actually want to do business with their

I have to second that. I had problems with 2 of the Stargrunt figs (out
of about 120+), one hand of each was not really filled out by metal
(miscast) I've wrote Jon about might need to check the mold - in the
next order, I've received a perfectly cast mini of each. Service is excellent.
(The minis too...)

Parts would be interesting, but not that easy regarding the sheer amount of
models. Wait for Jon to answer on it.

Greetings,

Akos Büky

> On Wed, Jan 07, 2004 at 08:39:28AM +0100, B?ky ?kos wrote:

> I have to second that. I had problems with 2 of the Stargrunt figs (out

> of about 120+), one hand of each was not really filled out by metal

This happened to a friend of mine too - he picked up a fleet of Islamics
at Salute, and neither he nor Jon (who was filling the order) noticed that a
couple of the ships were incompletely filled. He got replacements by return
post...

Alan Brain replied to Eric Fialkowski:

> >Parts:

IOW the standard long "K5" gun from any of the Kra'Vak non-carrier
capitals
(FT-409, 410, 411, 412 and 431/431A)

> Memo to Jon : What about making this an "official kit", possibly by

It'd be a nice addition to the range, yes... though knowing the difference
between how much work it'd take to make a piece good enough for the player's
own miniatures conversion (a few minutes if you have a Dremel or
similar; less than 15 minutes if you do it by hand - yes, I've done some

very similar kitbashes too) and how much it'd take to make a metal or styrene
piece I'd want to use as a master model for commercial casting, I'm very much
in favour of simply supplying a standard cruiser main hull and

letting the player do his own metalworking! :-/

(The main detail to be removed from the hull spar (ie. the central transverse
bit on which the guns and bridge are mounted) is one of the most solid details
on the entire piece, so if it has lost its crispness the rest
of the mould is most likely shot to hell already - but you don't want to

modify existing moulds anyway, particularly not by *adding* material to them
(you'd need to fill in the depression that would otherwise cause the
detail to form). If you want a purpose-cast piece for this model you
pretty much need to either modify an existing metal piece to serve as the
master for a new mould, or preferrably build an entirely new master model out
of styrene.)

Later,