FT-Help with new weapons

3 posts ยท Feb 4 2001 to Feb 5 2001

From: Bif Smith <bif@b...>

Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 18:10:33 -0000

Subject: re:FT-Help with new weapons

Laserlight, BIF stands for Big Idiotic Fu**er, a nickname I`ve had since
school. My real name is David Spencer Smith (DSS). The reason my submissions
to the FTSR is under chris smith is I was using my bro.s e-mail account
at the time.

The PBC`s are a direct fire cannon/gun, the same as beam weapons are
normally. Instead of a beam weapon doing 1 or 2 +reroll damage points, a
PBC
does 1D6 or 2D6 pammage points +reroll. The Grav Pulse Lance is a direct
fire weapon, designed to take out gravitic systems aboard a starship, and
was thought up as a way to defeate damage/kinetic sheilds. If you think
the PBC`s are overpowered in respect to lighter ships, I was trying to game
the great dammage potential of dreadnought battleship`s guns, and a single
salvo from a 15" main gun could sink any destroyer ever built (a near miss
would be enough. The water spash would normally be enough to break the
back/keel
of a DD, spliting it in half, and sinking it).

Also, you might be interested in a battle report from the play testing of the
HET lasers. I used identical ships, with the beam batts replaced with het
lasers. Volga DDH vs het volga DDH. Normal volga won (but only just), due to
being able to dammage the het armed ship before the greater dammage of the
hets could be brought to bear. Tibet CL vs het tibet CL. Normal tibet won
(walk over). The extra dammage defence from the sheilds mounted on the het
ship was still not enough to counter the range advantage of normal beams. My
have also been due to bad die rolls on my part (teske feild I beleave).
Manchuria BC vs het manchuria BC. HET BC won, due to greater DP holding off
dammage/threshold checks until hets could make a difference. Margin of
victory wasn`t that great (14 DP remaining vs destroyed). Maria Von Burgand BB
vs het maria von burgand BB (with p.torp replaced with another cl.3 het).
Normal BB won (a slaughter actually). The range limit on hets was such that at
long range of over 24 MU, the het could not hit, but the normal BB was putting
out 5 die of dammage (and p.torp missed). Between
16-24 MU (max range of cl.3 hets), the maria was putting out 12 die of
dammage, where as the het was putting out only 6 die of dammage! On the next
turn, the range dropped to 9 MU, and the het was only putting out 12 die of
dammage vs 26 die of dammage (both totals for normal BB not including p.torp,
which hit both times!). From this I say hets will be more useful in high
thrust ships, with sheilds to protect them until they can close the range.
This might be useful, in that I don`t think that hets are too powerful for
their mass, and the cost is higher than normal beams, so
increasing the NPV of your fleet/squadren.

Comments anyone?

From: Oerjan Ohlson <oerjan.ohlson@t...>

Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 20:14:29 +0100

Subject: Re: re:FT-Help with new weapons

> Bif Smith wrote:

> was thought up as a way to defeate damage/kinetic sheilds. If you

Providing the 15" main gun could hit (close enough to) the DD, which wasn't
all that likely if the DD was evading. Slow shells and small,
relatively fast targets isn't a good combination for accuracy :-/

> Also, you might be interested in a battle report from the play testing

> Tibet CL vs het tibet CL. Normal tibet won (walk over). The extra

The Teske Field is when you roll copious amounts of "6"s, so if you played the
standard ship it was a Teske Field. If you played the HET
ship it was a Kochte Curse instead (rolling copious amounts of "1"s) -
except that the Kochte Curse usually only manifests itself when you use
P-torps or K-guns. I don't think we have any accepted name for Beth's
problems (ie., rolling copious amounts of "1"s regardless of what weapon type
you're using) <g>

> Manchuria BC vs het manchuria BC. HET BC won, due to greater DP

A little more than the average damage one point-blank broadside from an
undamaged standard Manchuria (19 beam dice vs. lvl-1 screens give an
expected damage of 12 points). One initiative roll going the other way or one
bad threshold check could easily have reversed the outcome.

> Maria Von Burgand BB vs het maria von burgand BB (with p.torp

Ie., the HET put out an equivalent of 9 standard beam dice. Still outgunned
though.

> On the next turn, the range dropped to 9 MU, and the het was only

Ie. the HET ship put out an equivalent of 18 standard beam dice, vs. 26.

> From this I say hets will be more useful in high thrust ships, with

As all short-range, high-yield weapons, yes. Thrust-2 isn't enough <g>

> This might be useful, in that I don`t think that hets are too powerful

All in all the results are about what I would've expected - the Tibets
being a possible exception, but only just. Thanks for the reports!

Regards,

From: Laserlight <laserlight@q...>

Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 17:56:34 -0500

Subject: Re: re:FT-Help with new weapons

> The Teske Field is when you roll copious amounts of "6"s, so if you