FT FB3

9 posts · Feb 12 2003 to Mar 3 2003

From: dragon_des_vieilles_rocheuses@c...

Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 14:19:44 GMT+1

Subject: FT FB3

I don't have enough time to read all the messages sent on this mailing list
but I'm sure some of you have begun creating Weapons and ships for the
Japanese, UNSC, or Islamic armies. I've just contacted "Lord" Owen, and FB3 is
not on the starting blocks... So my Question is: can someone sum up the most
important ideas concerning new weapons and the "philosophy" of these nations
(I was interested in giving to the japanese fleet a
close-combat skill but it may be hard to play...).

YOY, a patient but frenchy player

"Quand la riviere saigne, empreinte le torrent boueux."

From: Roger Burton West <roger@f...>

Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 14:40:52 +0000

Subject: Re: FT FB3

On Wed, Feb 12, 2003 at 02:19:44PM +0000,
> dragon_des_vieilles_rocheuses@caramail.com wrote:

The ship designs I've been using for the IJN are basically fighter- and
missile-heavy with an updated version of the Wave Gun/Nova Cannon as
primary armament. This does mean that they tend to overpower FB1 fleets on a
point-for-point basis, and I'm waiting for official revised fighter
rules before I go much further with them.

Laserlight has some IFed material up...

From: Paul Owen <paul@g...>

Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 14:47:55 -0000

Subject: RE: FT FB3

No, not me, it was Jon, I'm just his slave and he made me say all those
things.

Paul

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From: Laserlight <laserlight@q...>

Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 11:27:58 -0500

Subject: RE: FT FB3

From:  dragon_des_vieilles_rocheuses@caramail.com
> So my Question is : can someone sum up the most important

You'll find an unofficial view of the Islamic Fed at
http://home.quixnet.net/~deboe/if/index.htm .  The IF Navy is beginning
to transition away from SMR, towards heavy missiles (as found in More Thrust
and modified by AEBrain). The SDN's spinal weapon is undefined at the moment.

From: Alan and Carmel Brain <aebrain@w...>

Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 11:17:54 +1100

Subject: Re: FT FB3

From: <dragon_des_vieilles_rocheuses@caramail.com>

So my Question is: can someone sum up the most important ideas concerning new
weapons and the "philosophy" of these nations (I was interested in giving to
the japanese fleet a
close-combat skill but it may be hard to play...).

My take on the OU - others differ:

OU ships are very under-armed, except close in.
They're also as hard to kill as cockroaches.

An OU Heavy Cruiser would have no real capability at 36", would be able to
hold its own at 24", and be nasty at 12".

It would also have more hull boxes than many Battlecruisers.

For example, a "typical" heavy cruiser has, say 2 B3-3s,

From: RAF TAZ <yoyraf@c...>

Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 14:43:25 +0100

Subject: RE: Re: FT FB3

This may be funny to play but in this case, a very good mobility is required
so that they

can keep enemies in range.

Another problem would be the duel for the rules, I already imagine that those
ships with

light batteries could fire all around, so cinematics rules would be a serious
advantage.

Thanks for this answer.

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> From : Alan and Carmel Brain

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> So my Question is : can someone sum up the most important

> ideas concerning new weapons and the "philosophy" of these

> nations (I was interested in giving to the japanese fleet a

> close-combat skill but it may be hard to play...).

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> My take on the OU - others differ:

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> OU ships are very under-armed, except close in.

> They're also as hard to kill as cockroaches.

> [quoted text omitted]

> An OU Heavy Cruiser would have no real capability at 36",

> would be able t o hold its own at 24", and be nasty at 12".

> [quoted text omitted]

> It would also have more hull boxes than many Battlecruisers.

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> For example, a "typical" heavy cruiser has, say 2 B3-3s,

> 2 B2-3s and 2 B1-6s, total mass 18. An OU equivalent would have

> 6 B2-3s, 2 B1-6s, with 4 extra hull boxes. OU ships tend to be

> a bit larger than others, but cost the same due to the high

> ratio of hull to weaponry.

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> OU ships use mainly beams, some MT missiles, and a few SMs.

> They have battlecruiser-sized carriers, each of which is

> an underarmed battledreadnaught with 2 fighter groups not 1.

> PTs are only on a few specialised Torpedo Corvettes. They use

> armour in small quantities, and use screens.

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> Another philosophy that appears on the web for the OU is

> to have nothing but Beam-4s and MT missiles.

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From: RAF TAZ <yoyraf@c...>

Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 14:53:02 +0100

Subject: RE: RE: FT FB3

Ok thanks.

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> From : laserlight@quixnet.net

> Date : Wed, 12 Feb 2003 11:27:58 -0500

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> From: dragon_des_vieilles_rocheuses@caramail.com

> So my Question is : can someone sum up the most important

> ideas concerning new weapons and the "philosophy" of these

> nations (I was interested in giving to the japanese fleet a

> close-combat skill but it may be hard to play...).

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> You'll find an unofficial view of the Islamic Fed at

> http://home.quixnet.net/~deboe/if/index.htm . The IF Navy is beginning

> transition away from SMR, towards heavy missiles (as found in More

> and modified by AEBrain). The SDN's spinal weapon is undefined at the

> moment.

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From: Laserlight <laserlight@q...>

Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 11:54:12 -0500

Subject: RE: Re: FT FB3

I mentioned in a previous post that the heavy/spinal weapon for the IF
was undefined. In "Interrupted Negotiations", I stripped the SMR from the IF
battleship and gave it a single arc class 4 (3dice) Heavy Beam (Alan Brain
version, see the WDA at www.nift.firedrake.org). The IF player liked it
very well--and it didn't hurt that he rolled about 5 sixes with it on
his first shot...

BTW Raf, your posts are coming through in something like HTML and is
difficult to read--can you post as plaintext?

From: RAF TAZ <yoyraf@c...>

Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 11:46:40 +0100

Subject: RE: RE: Re: FT FB3

Sorry for the HTLM format, it should be better now. Thnaks for this answer,
too, I promise I take a look at all these this week, I'll have enough time for
this, and I'll try this this WE with my frensh friends. Of course I'll try to
contribute to the "interrupted negotiations" about FB 3.

RAF.txt

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